Chajin said nothing about salvation being dependent on one’s view of the Jew’s or modern day Israel. Both of you are putting up an unnecessary straw man!
Both those who believe in a restored Israel and those who believe that the Church has replaced Israel have a place in the Church. However, I have sat through classes on Revelations being taught by those with the replacement view. They have to resort to a lot of “spiritualized” interpretations during the description of John being transported to Heaven during the end times.
Dispensationalism is not dead.
I suggest that people spend some time following Amir Tsafarti. He is a Christian Jew who lives in Israel.
https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel
His web page posts pictures and videos about what is going on in present day Israel. He posted several videos of Israeli forces occupying Hamas sites and singing about looking forward to the coming of the Messiah.
I’m a Messianic Jew, thank you for clarifying what was said.
However, the statement that the current Jewish people are not the descendants of the Biblical Jewish people is untrue. There are plenty of historical documents that show a continuity of the Jewish people following the destruction of the Second Temple. Some claim the term, Jew, is a relatively recent invention. Yet among the first English translations of the Bible, such as the Geneva Bible (Puritan) and the Douay Rheims Bible (Catholic), both of which date to the late 16th Century, you will find that term used to describe the Jewish people. DNA evidence indicates that while the exiles did intermarry with other Mediterranean peoples, notably Greeks and Italians, the closest paternal DNA for Ashkenazi (Eastern and Central European) Jews are other Jewish groups like the Sephardim. After other Jews, the next closest genetic matches are Palestinians, Lebanese, and other people who have lived in the Holy Land for many centuries.
You must ask yourself why God has chosen to preserve national Israel. It is rather hard to find Galatians, Visigoths, Picts, Scythians, Hittites, and other nations contemporary with Biblical Israel. We have the statement of the Apostle Paul in Romans 11:25-26 (NKJV) "For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved." While the church is God's primary vehicle since Pentecost, He has not abandoned His original people. Before the end of the world, the Jewish people will collectively recognize Jesus as their Savior.
Thank you for your post.
“...Dispensationalism is not dead....”
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I agree. It is and always has been the minority view because it assumes that regular students of the Scriptures and guided by the Holy Spirit can understand plain language and can and will apply it to define their theology as opposed to letting their theology define their understanding of the Word of God.
What really hurts dispensationalism is that many who claim it as their belief system do not take the time to truly understand it.
And it all starts with the Abrahamic Covenant. Get that one wrong and things start to go sideways in a hurry.
if being “out of God’s will” is not referring to salvation then it is a meaningless platitude.
Not mention the majority of the 49 chapters of Ezekiel, plus much of Zechariah. That is a lot of spiritualization and exclusion. And we are to imagine that the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, are heard no more at all in Israel. (cf. Revelation 18:22 [KJV])