[metmom]

But I'll bet my lunch money you don't take John 6 anywhere near as literally as you pretend to take Matthew 23. Why is that?

But I'll bet my lunch money you (Catholics) don't take Matthew 23 anywhere near as literally as you to take John 6. Why is that?

Jesus' command to call no man Father is as clear and explicit as can be.

So..... why do you all do it?

[Texas_Guy]

And you call your sperm donor what? Bob?

[Texas_Guy]

“I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14–15).

Better tell Paul he’s a heretic.

[ealgeone]

Clearly, after the proclamation of this dogma, the direct rejection of the biblical inerrancy became complicated and risky for those “Catholic” theologians and Bible scholars who proposed interpretations contrary to Sacred Tradition. How can they say that Adam and Eve did not exist?

Here's the problem for Romans.....from the CCC.

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God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day.

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If you don't get that right you're gonna have a hard time with the rest.

And from Catholic Answers...which IMHO is home of some of the most disingenuous apologists for Rome....

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Karlo: Yeah, Susie, I would recommend you go to our website, Catholic.com. My colleague and friend Trent Horn wrote a great article, using this event when it first came out as sort of a tee-up in order to present the Church's position and the Church's understanding on the creation story in the book of Genesis.

And basically, Susie, the Church gives us no definitive interpretation of the narrative that we find in the creation story. The Church allows for Catholics to hold to various interpretations. So one could take a literalistic view of the narrative in the creation story, where the whole entire universe was created in six 24-hour periods, if one is inclined to take that interpretation. A Catholic is permitted to take that interpretation.

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Isn't it amazing that the group that claims to have been around for 2000 years and is supposed to be the ultimate interpreter of the Scriptures....cannot give us a clear answer on this most important issue.

If you don't get Genesis right then everything else is up for grabs.

[ealgeone]

Here's another problem for Romans.

5.) Authority in establishing correct interpretations of the texts of the Holy Scriptures belongs to the Magisterium of the Church, under the essential condition of continuity between interpretations already consecrated and those subsequent;

The group that claims to have been around 2000 years has only dogmatically defined a very small number of passages in the New Testament. IIRC, it's less than 40.

So how is a Roman Catholic supposed to know what is the "correct interpretation" of the texts????

[ebb tide]

You prots are nothing but hypocrites:

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