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Atheist Vatican appointee says pro-abortion UN goals should form basis of ‘common good’
LifeSite News ^ | February 13, 2024 | Michale Haynes

Posted on 02/13/2024 8:39:47 AM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 02/13/2024 8:39:47 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 02/13/2024 8:40:20 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Antipope Bergolio really hates the Christian Faith.


3 posted on 02/13/2024 8:40:35 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: ebb tide

The common good requires your extermination Comrade. Buck up!


4 posted on 02/13/2024 8:43:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: wildcard_redneck

I’m so old I remember when even us Protestants thought the Vatican promoted Christianity.


5 posted on 02/13/2024 8:45:53 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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It was for “the common good” that Jesus was crucified. But it was still unjust, immoral and against all things holy.


6 posted on 02/13/2024 8:46:05 AM PST by BipolarBob (One flew East and one flew West . . .)
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To: ebb tide

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen so many nutty/objectionable words crammed into a single headline... and they left out the ‘climate change’ part until later.


7 posted on 02/13/2024 8:47:20 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: ebb tide
Atheist Vatican appointee

Three words into the headline, nevermind the article, and my brain has already short-circuited. Might be a new record.
8 posted on 02/13/2024 8:59:10 AM PST by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: ebb tide

Atheist? No no.....modernist as Sir Humphrey explains.

James Hacker:
Humphrey, what’s a Modernist in the Church of England?

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
Ah, well, the word “Modernist” is code for non-believer.

James Hacker:
You mean an atheist?

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
No, Prime Minister. An atheist clergyman couldn’t continue to draw his stipend. So, when they stop believing in God, they call themselves “Modernists”.

James Hacker:
How could the Church of England suggest an atheist as Bishop of Bury St Edmunds?

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
Well, very easily. The Church of England is primarily a social organization, not a religious one.

James Hacker:
Is it?

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
Oh yes. It’s part of the rich social fabric of this country. So bishops need to be the sorts of chaps who speak properly and know which knife and fork to use. The sort of people one can look up to.


9 posted on 02/13/2024 9:06:00 AM PST by xp38
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To: ebb tide

Another good reason to disband the U.N.


10 posted on 02/13/2024 9:13:08 AM PST by oldtech
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To: ebb tide

Another good reason to disband the U.N.


11 posted on 02/13/2024 9:14:00 AM PST by oldtech
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To: oldtech

I agree.


12 posted on 02/13/2024 9:47:31 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Tell It Right

You can lump in Methodist, Presbyterians and many Baptist congregations in that statement.

The Adversary has made great strides in the last 70 years in the corruption of men.

I can’t think of any Christian sect that has not suffered corruption.

The Adversary does not take vacations, does not take breaks and does not sleep in his efforts to destroy mankind.


13 posted on 02/13/2024 10:34:56 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: oldtech

We don’t need to disband the UN

We just need to stop contributing to its funding.

The rest will take care of itself


14 posted on 02/13/2024 10:39:53 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Please see https://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/4217096/posts?page=21#21 in which I mention the recent change in many Methodist churches. That's what I want for Catholics.

The reason the Methodists were able to leave the hedonist UMC general conference is the same reason the Baptists were able to fire their president. There are enough good, sincere Christians in those churches to tell their leaders that they're sticking to Jesus like glue and if the leaders keep getting in the way then the leaders have to go. The Baptists handled it by firing their president. The Methodists were unable to ditch the leaders in their general conference; so entire Methodist churches left the general conference.

That's how important that righteousness is to the Christians in those churches. My prayer is that there's enough Catholics with that same dedication to Jesus more than denomination. Can the good Catholics tell their commie "pope" and the other hedonists leaders in the RCC that either they go or the good guys are leaving the RCC?

The Baptists who did that and won the argument didn't quit being Baptist (i.e. protestants believing in calvinism, which I disagree with but it doesn't matter). The Methodists that did that didn't quit being Methodists (i.e. protestants believing in arminianism). Can't Catholics do the same? Can't Catholics still believe in transubstantiation during the eucharist without requiring a member of the hedonist clique RCC clergy being there to bless the elements? Does a Catholic's belief in purgatory and remission of sins allow the remission of sin without a RCC clergy to be there to bless the sin away?

If the answer is "no", that good Catholics can't be Catholic without their hedonist clergy then the good Catholics have lost the battle. As long as the control-freak leaders know that you think you need them, they can get away with bastardizing the gospel.

But if the Catholics can cross the step of telling their leaders they no longer believe in "apostolic secession" to be the absolute thing they've been told over and over it is, and that the leaders (clergy) need the lay folks more than the lay folks need the clergy, and that you're going to quit using terms like "clergy" and "laity" because the RCC leaders have abused that kind of social status fake distinctions way too much ... then there's a chance the RCC can be rescued.

Notice not once am I saying that Catholics need to be Protestant like me. I'm not talking about the 5 solas or anything like that. But what is required is that the good guys in the RCC tell the "clergy" that you're sticking to Jesus like glue and if the clergy gets in the way then the clergy has to go.

15 posted on 02/13/2024 11:01:53 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right
If the answer is "no", that good Catholics can't be Catholic without their hedonist clergy then the good Catholics have lost the battle. As long as the control-freak leaders know that you think you need them, they can get away with bastardizing the gospel.

The Roman Catholic Church has survived bad Popes in the past and will survive Francis.

A well formed Catholic knows that the Pope can not change doctrine.

16 posted on 02/13/2024 1:55:57 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
The Roman Catholic Church has survived bad Popes in the past and will survive Francis. A well formed Catholic knows that the Pope can not change doctrine.

I fear for the RCC in the counter-reformation era. The bad popes in the past occurred when the RCC was more conciliatory (in the past the popes who tried to flex too much authority had it reigned in at the next Council). The Jesuits are a relatively new order (about 4 centuries old) within the RCC that was formed shortly before the Council of Trent and, IMHO, was given much power in the teachings of the RCC because they were all about papal supremacy (countering the Protestants criticisms of the pope). Thus, unlike the RCC in the past, the RCC as we know it for the past 4 centuries is too used to the pope being the see-all, do-all above all criticism.

Will this be enough to shake up the RCC and bring things back more to right? Or are we entering yet another era where yet another heresy is going to be taught as "truth" "tradition" as though it's always been? For example, what we call "traditional Latin mass" isn't some 2,000 year old tradition like they make it out to be. It was codified at the Council of Trent in the 16th century (again, trying really hard to be different from Protestants). Can you find early Catholic catechisms written before the Protestant Reformation that mentions the pope? These are examples of teachings that Catholics before then would have never thought would have been taught for centuries as truth like Catholics today hear it.

So will future Catholics quote the glories of gay hedonism as though it's always been part of "truth" "tradition"? Or will this be the moment that Catholics tell the pope and his supporting clergy that truth comes from the Bible and anything they teach will be tested by that? (see tagline)

17 posted on 02/13/2024 2:25:06 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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