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To: ebb tide

And if he did, then he committed blasphemy; NO man can be divine, that is ONLY for God. That’s the main difference between your beliefs and mine - I don’t subscribe to the “cleaned-up” pagan belief in demi-gods or of a human woman being impregnated by God. Whomever the historical person was who was used as the model for Jesus, he was a mortal and fallible man, born of the union of two mortal and fallible human beings, and he is dead.


14 posted on 01/12/2024 8:05:40 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr; ebb tide
And if he did, then he committed blasphemy; NO man can be divine, that is ONLY for God. That’s the main difference between your beliefs and mine - I don’t subscribe to the “cleaned-up” pagan belief in demi-gods or of a human woman being impregnated by God. Whomever the historical person was who was used as the model for Jesus, he was a mortal and fallible man, born of the union of two mortal and fallible human beings, and he is dead.

You'll have to excuse ebb. He's just mad that the one and only claim of Divine Revelation in all of human history that is self-validating is the Revelation at Sinai, and not anything to do with J*sus. As the article says, that's why chrstianity had to incorporate the Hebrew Bible into its own canon.

Chrstianity (and other religions) are based on faith. For Sinai, no faith is necessary. It is an absolute undeniable fact. It could not possibly have not happened. And it's the only such claim of revelation in history!

Ironically, ebb doesn't seem to understand that to a Fundamentalist Protestant (the tradition I grew up saturated in), he doesn't believe in J*sus either because he believes in secondary instrumentalities (sacraments, rituals, ceremonies, etc.). To a FP, to call J*sus one's "savior" one must reject all such things and be "saved" completely passively, with an absolute minimum, or sometimes with no, participation. To FPs, ebb is a "Judaizer!" He preaches Protestantism to the Jews and Judaism to the Protestants!

Believe it or not, I'm actually a big fan of most of ebb's posts. He knows what's going on in the Catholic Church, opposes the Catholic liberals, and is anti-Jewish only to the extent demanded by his religious dogma. I have never seen him invoke the "Protocols" or call abortion "Zionism" or anything like so many right wing Catholics do. I hope for his conversion, but I do honestly respect him.

15 posted on 01/12/2024 8:40:04 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: Ancesthntr

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The way the God matrix works

you have take something out

to get something in

our opinions especially


18 posted on 01/13/2024 12:50:04 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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