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The decline of marriage: A glimpse into an unsettling trend
Christian Post ^ | 01/09/2024 | Virgil Walker

Posted on 01/09/2024 10:06:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: DoodleBob
That’s why I started off, “Prescinding from out-of-wedlock procreation…”

But why would you want to do that? Illegitimacy (more accurately: women bearing children out of wedlock) is a statistically more-significant factor. Also, it has less excuse than divorce (which - in some cases - may be justified/necessary).

Regards,

41 posted on 01/09/2024 7:27:30 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you.

You make SEVERAL good points, that require more thought, candidly.

While there were many good things that came with the “good old days,” there was also some nasty stuff commingled. For example, I suspect it was way easier to strike a woman and get away with it circa 1934. Extended families can also be extended pests.

Yes, I’d like to have my cake and eat it too.

Nonetheless, I believe many of the good things of yesteryear that kept couples together aren’t impossible to reclaim. What I suspect (and fear) is that we lack the WILL to do so.

Thank you for a VERY thoughtful reply.


42 posted on 01/09/2024 7:42:15 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: alexander_busek

I started off with that, because the post was about divorce.

As a matter of morality, sex out of wedlock and divorce are both mortally sinful. Thus, it’s hard to debate which is worse; they both garner a one-way trip to hell.

In terms of societal destruction..there are about 73MM kids in the US under 18.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr72/nvsr72-01.pdf

https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/

About 25% of children live in single-parent homes. Out of about 10 million single parent families with children under the age of 18, almost 80 percent were headed by single mothers. A third lived in poverty.

https://legaljobs.io/blog/children-of-divorce-statistics/

About 50% of all American children will witness the end of their parents’ marriage. With 73MM kids under 18, that would mean about 36MM kids.

From a pure numbers basis, it seems more kids are exposed to divorce vs single parent families. That doesn’t mean more devastation necessarily. But the numbers are higher.

In addition, a child with one parent, doesn’t know what they’re missing. A child exposed to divorce knows what they’re missing. Further, of these children, slightly fewer than half will then go on to see their parents’ second marriage break up, and one in every 10 children who have divorced parents will then see the break up of three or more parental marriages.

We may be debating if we’d prefer electrocution or hanging. Births out of wedlock and divorce both suck. Hopefully on that, we can agree.


43 posted on 01/09/2024 8:22:45 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob
In addition, a child with one parent, doesn’t know what they’re missing.

1. Not knowing what you're missing is hardly to be preferred.

2. As for the devastation of divorce vs. illegitimacy: The children of divorced parents might nonetheless have enjoyed at least a few years of domestic peace and having a father in the house, whereas children born out of wedlock don't have even that. The statistics on criminality, drug use, suicide, etc. all support my position: The children of divorced parents don't do as well as children from intact families - but children born out of wedlock fare far worse.

3. Which would you prefer? To grow up in a household headed by an unwed mother (likely one who has allowed multiple "boyfriends" to "cover" her)? Or in a household with a father and a few siblings - though the marriage might then be dissolved when you're, say, entering junior high?

We may be debating if we’d prefer electrocution or hanging. Births out of wedlock and divorce both suck. Hopefully on that, we can agree.

Yes, agree!

Regards,

44 posted on 01/09/2024 9:54:42 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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