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The decline of marriage: A glimpse into an unsettling trend
Christian Post ^ | 01/09/2024 | Virgil Walker

Posted on 01/09/2024 10:06:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

**The sham “marriages” involving celebrating the self and the selves’ genitalia is a perversion of the traditional sense of marriage.**

You mean like the idiot couple, where the wife was running for state office in Virginia, and had put their escapades on online video?

I tell the teens and preteens in sunday school class: “You need to seek the right PERSONALITY of the OPPOSITE sex, and be PATIENT in that search, because it may take a while! If you are putting sex ahead of everything else, you are taking big risks on your future happiness.”


21 posted on 01/09/2024 11:33:50 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is probably our biggest ‘doom’ indicator. Women have unreal expectations of life. They think they’re all a ‘10’. The average guy is too much ‘below’ them, as an average woman. The women engage in divorce at much higher rates and the courts favor women, especially with kids. Dating apps enable all of it. The same 90% of women chase the same 10% of men. They no longer have to look in their local circles for a companion, they all look at endless men on their smartphone for the guy that makes $500k, is 6’ft+, with 6 pack abs, that is funny, and will be ordered around. In other words, the guy that barely exists - as goes our birth rate.

As a man, why bother? Dating is destroyed, I keep hearing it over and over. Hence the term “passport bros”, men going elsewhere looking for a wife.

Society is collapsing right now.


22 posted on 01/09/2024 11:34:12 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Zuriel
Those men from that office building were probably led to tempting thoughts often during the day, seeing those younger women always glammed up, compared to their wives household appearance.

Those male office workers were no more "tempted" than the typical male is by images in the "Underwear" section of an old Sears & Roebuck catalog. In fact, they are probably less tempted, since the underwear models didn't spoil the illusion by opening their traps and spouting feminist cr*p.

Believe me: Daily interactions with entitled, snippish female office workers have a very moderating effect on one's testosterone levels!

Regards,

23 posted on 01/09/2024 11:38:27 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: PGR88
Everything Jewish/Christian tradition has said about marriage and sex for 3500 years is there for the benefit of both society, and the individual.

True.

But this phenomenon has occurred many times in the last 2000 years in Western civilization. It is clearly not unique to our times.

What is even more troubling is the birth rate. All of Western civilization is shaping up to be a demographic bust in population growth -- which is a significant factor in our overall economic growth and well-being.

24 posted on 01/09/2024 11:38:36 AM PST by icclearly ( )
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To: alternatives?
It is interesting the article notes the problem of men claiming to be Christians in church prying on the poor women but nothing about women claiming to be Christians prying on men.

Do you mean "preying?"

Regards,

25 posted on 01/09/2024 11:41:18 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DoodleBob
Divorce is THE most destructive element to the family and society….more than the gays, more than Ukraine, more than Soros. It is clear, yet few rail against divorce anymore.

Divorce, as a destructive factor, pales in comparison with the impact of illegitimacy (out-of-wedlock children) in society in general, but among Blacks in particular.

The statistics bear this out.

Regards,

26 posted on 01/09/2024 11:49:30 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

LOL

You have a point, but a photo is not moving and interactive. I recall my early days of marriage, before children, and going out to dinner, sometimes with another couple. Two times in particular (but different restaurants) I recall a pretty waitress (wearing very short skirts/dresses) getting dangerously close to ‘crossing the line’ with my wife.

They were flirty, even touching me on the shoulder; with one putting her hip against my shoulder to point out things on the menu. I didn’t notice her do it, but my wife gave those ladies ‘the look’ (she told me later), and in both cases they knocked off their behavior.

I managed to marry a very beautiful woman, that is fiercely loyal to me. I owe her the same.


27 posted on 01/09/2024 12:01:53 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: ansel12

Exactly. This is a big reason so many of us remain unmarried.


28 posted on 01/09/2024 12:10:22 PM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Zuriel
You have a point, but a photo is not moving and interactive.

Some might opine that that's a feature, not a bug.

Regards,

29 posted on 01/09/2024 12:10:26 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kids today just live together in the basement of one of the parents - no bills, no responsibility, no vows. When things breakup; just an argument over who keeps the streaming password and the dog they got during covid and maybe the Purple mattress.


30 posted on 01/09/2024 12:13:46 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: alexander_busek

yes


31 posted on 01/09/2024 12:15:30 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: nonliberal

The feminist post-60s laws need to revert back to make divorce costly for the woman as well, to where she is equally at risk of losing all of it including the kids and the home.


32 posted on 01/09/2024 12:53:16 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Not so sure about the decline of marriage I believe it’s more of a issue of availability of sane people there are fewer of them now days.

Left woke dopers street monkeys those crowds are growing by the day.


33 posted on 01/09/2024 1:18:42 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind
Government involvement in "family" "law" has reduced marriage to an atrocious contract with an unwilling third partner who's incentivized to collude with another partner to divorce-rape the third (the man) and deny him parental rights as well.



34 posted on 01/09/2024 2:32:57 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: DoodleBob

Agree with your assessment and view. All good wishes.


35 posted on 01/09/2024 3:24:08 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Zuriel

Kudos. Keep teaching your charges in Sunday school.


36 posted on 01/09/2024 3:25:39 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Sacajaweau

He violated the first rule of modern marriage for young people—applies to both men and women.

These days you must always marry someone wealthier than you are.

Then the court system is no longer your enemy since it operates on Marxist principles:

“From each according to their ability, to each according to his/their needs.”


37 posted on 01/09/2024 3:30:15 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: SeekAndFind

This article really covers the landscape of many of the most troubling aspects of today’s post- or anti-Christian culture and its deleterious effects on marriage. If only today’s couples had the maturity to consider these things beforehand—or even their parents as advisors.

Whom should they ask? The cultural rot since WW2 goes back to their grandparents’ generation. Even youngish pastors are facing unique challenges from media saturation, women’s unrest, etc.

One would hope that couples in the churches with lasting marriages would form advisory groups for the younger people.


38 posted on 01/09/2024 3:37:55 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: DoodleBob
I get that some spouses are tough, and there is mental illness and substance abuse. Guess what? That all existed prior to 1934. Divorce was shameful. It was a one-way ticket to hell. People worked out their problems.

While I agree with this statement to a large extent, important ingredients that were present in 1934 are no longer even legal. Such as: spanking misbehavior in children. Obedience to authority in schools. Widespread religious attendance; hence a more unified set of cultural values. Clear roles for males and females. Extended family living nearby who would help with the children and some of the chores, and who could beat the crap out of abusers. People stayed nearby, withiout superhighways and applications to faraway colleges and worksites out of a sense of adventure rather than necessity. There was also an ABSENCE of affluence, of easy "cures" for VD or an "out" from pregnancy, so that more people felt the need to restrain their own behavior.

Otherwise, wonderful post overall.

39 posted on 01/09/2024 3:55:50 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: alexander_busek

That’s why I started off, “Prescinding from out-of-wedlock procreation…”


40 posted on 01/09/2024 7:17:08 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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