Posted on 12/28/2023 6:12:14 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Is it too much to ask that you give me verses?
ROMANS 11: 1
Romans 11:23And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Meaning: Any INDIVIDUAL Jew that now believes in Jesus Christ as their Savior will be grafted in. HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with literal/corporate Israel. It is about the people, NOT THE NATION OF ISRAEL. It is now about Abraham’s seed, of which Christians are now included.
I’m speaking to closed ears and closed eyes, goodbye.
No, you’re speaking to someone who rightly divides the word of God. Your total belief system in bible prophecy centers around the Satanic lie of the Secret Rapture, devised by Jesuits to counter the Reformer’s truth that the Papacy is the Antichrist power. You are a Futurist. You have been fooled. If you are alive at the end of this world, you will be an easy target for the Mark of the Beast.
——>If GOD rejects an Eternal Covenant that he made, then he would be a liar.
Not if it were CONDITIONAL on obedience.
Romans 11:26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
All Israel. That Paul is not teaching universal salvation for either Gentiles or Jews has already been shown (see on v. 25). Furthermore, why should only the generation of Jews living in the time of the end be assured of salvation by some kind of divine decree? Paul has expressed his hope that “some of them” (v. 14) might be saved. It seems evident from this that he believed that many would reject all efforts to save them, and that accordingly he never envisioned the conversion of the entire nation.
Some commentators hold that the faithful remnant (see on v. 5) to which are added those Jews who accept Christ during the Christian Era, constitute the “all Israel” who will be saved. This view is based on the observation that Paul’s burden in ch. 11 is the salvation of his fellow Israelites. He contrasts their salvation with that of the Gentiles. The two groups are distinguished throughout the chapter by the Jews’ being referred to in the third person and the Gentiles in the second. The salvation of the former is described by the expression “all Israel shall be saved”; that of the latter by “the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”
Other commentators hold that “all Israel” represents spiritual Israel. This view is based on the belief that Paul is here completing his illustration of the olive tree. He has shown how the branches representing the unbelieving Jews were broken off, and the wild olive shoots, representing the Gentiles, grafted in. He has shown, also, how the severed branches could be reunited with the parent stock. By the grafting in of these branches the tree representing spiritual Israel would again be made whole. “All Israel” would thus represent the totality of those saved, Jews and Gentiles, who together constitute “all” of true Israel (Rom. 2:28, 29; Gal. 6:15, 16).
I’m arrogant and condescending because I’m telling you the truth?
Oh I was looking too far back and accidentally skipped over it
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4206457/posts?page=21#21
——>When the children of Israel were in bondage in Egypt God saved them all.
At that time, were they a nation/corporate body? No, they were not. They were the seed of Abraham. When God made a covenant with them at Sinai, was that covenant dependent on obedience? Yes, it was.
After Babylon, God gave literal Israel EXACTLY 490 years to repent of their sins, etc... (Dan 9:24) They failed.
Jesus Christ declared...
Matthew 21:43Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
——>There is plenty of evidence that Israel is restored, but you refuse to consider it.
Like the evidence to the contrary that I gave to CowboyUSA, who then called me arrogant, condescending, and prideful? Said I would have to answer for it? Like that?
——>Keep watching.
I am. You and I are looking for totally different things. What I’m looking for is provable by the bible and history. I agree with the Protestant Reformers (all of them) on who the Antichrist power is. You do not. Biblically, you and cowboy are clueless, believing Jesuit lies. Does that make me arrogant and condescending? No, it does not. Most of you refuse to even consider, THEN RESEARCH, my evidence. Don’t blame me when your world comes crashing down.
Now I remember your post, w/ Martin Sheen pic... Thanks.
Matthew 21:
The barren fig tree
The parable of the two sons
The parable of the wicked tenants
Christ is talking about the Jewish Nation, literal/corporate Israel, and in verse 43 addressing its leaders, as REPRESENTATIVES of that Nation.
The concept etc, stopped right there.
Speak your mind, but don’t act like you can read mine.
Read 1st 11 chapters of Genesis to start understanding God.
Them get back to me.
——>Speak your mind, but don’t act like you can read mine.
No mind reading necessary. You just don’t understand. Simple as that.
And I think they may well be foot-soldiers of the False Prophet.......
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