I perceive this discussion is at an impasse as personal insults unbecoming of Christians are starting to creep in, so it's better to end it here. Have a blessed day.
34 posted on 12/15/2023 8:07:06 AM PST by fidelis
(Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)