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To: tired&retired

Your post reminded me of a conversation I had with a schizophrenic homeless guy once. Well, it wasn’t much of a conversation honestly, I just listened.


86 posted on 12/10/2023 4:08:40 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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I would not look to science to assist with this question, but in the narrow consideration of logic, the statement is true, if science cannot prove or disprove existence (of anything, God or otherwise), then it could exist. Believers have faith that God does exist. They may rely on personal experiences or they may look at what they see as overwhelming evidence that the universe and in particular our planet were intelligently designed.

Even so, if God created the universe, then we are left with a really unsolvable mystery, what was God’s origin before the universe? I think there are two possibilities, (1) God existed before the universe was created, or (2) God came into existence somewhere in the universe after that happened. Once in existence, God would have the powers to travel in space and time and could have been “present” at the creation even if it also happened before his existence.

For those who would want to say, oh no, God was definitely the creator of our universe, that’s fine, I don’t know, but it simply kicks the can down the road to whatever previous universe existed before God existed, or we are left with the concept that God existed before everything existed, including previous universes. I cannot totally wrap my mind around such a paradox but I freely admit that my inability to comprehend is not any sort of proof of a negative, just a shortcoming in my mortal understanding.

Personally, I see no chance that there is no God. If there was not the God of our understanding (Biblical, Yahweh, father of Jesus Christ) then inevitably some future being in the universe would evolve to obtain god-like powers anyway. An interesting question is this, can God do everything, or just more things than any other creation? For example, can God be in two places at the same time? Can God add 2 and 2 to get 17? Can God hit a hole in one on every hole including par fives? You see what I am getting at, not to be facetious, but it is sufficient for God to be much more powerful than us to merit our worship and service. God would not have to be able to do anything no matter how illogical. So the definition of God is important, is it a being without any limits at all, or a being with superior powers to other beings? At what point does an evolving being “become” God? What happens if one does and there already is a God?

I don’t know the answers to any of these questions.


91 posted on 12/10/2023 4:33:22 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: Fuzz

The big difference between schizophrenia voices and hearing God’s voice is the level at which the person is connecting.

The level a schizophrenic hears voices causes them to deal with impostors as they have no discernment.

When you reach the higher levels of consciousness, the Love and Light is so bright that the impostors cannot come near you. They fear that the Love & Light radiating through you will dispell their darkness and kill them.

This is how Jesus casts out demons and unclean spirits. This is how exorcisms are done.

I’ve worked with and read the souls of people with schizophrenia. I’ve worked with young people who used drugs one time and developed schizophrenia for life. Their consciousness flow pattern is unique in that they have no defined sense of self or ego as a containment vessel for their emotional consciousness. Their delusions happen as they do not have full use of their prefrontal cortex where analytical and logical thought processing occurs. Thus they have very little discernment and become delusional.

This same pattern is happening in general society today. People are in a trance or hypnotic state and hyper suggestable to propaganda, without discernment. It’s sad to see it happen.

🙏


123 posted on 12/11/2023 1:17:54 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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