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To: Ezekiel

So..... lots of numerology saying what? That Elijah’s going to arrive by bus in Burke? That the woman from Monday was sacrificed?


4 posted on 10/05/2023 1:54:55 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Sorry... I hadn;t realized I had already posted.


5 posted on 10/05/2023 1:55:47 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; Phinneous; golux; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; SJackson
All right, I'm back. I had some things to do, and now that I've got the chickens tucked into bed...

So what are you saying? Elijah's coming to Burke?

So..... lots of numerology saying what? That Elijah's going to arrive by bus in Burke? That the woman from Monday was sacrificed?

Boy now isn't that something. All of that data -- presented for any interested parties to view and to evaluate at their leisure for what attracts attenton -- yet some folks are never satisfied, demanding even more! Interpretations, pronto!

Isn't that always the way. I just posted data, and it's as if the tidy, established order stroked out for all the garbage that descended upon it.

It's simply a fact that Hebrew words have numeric values, for example. I am aware that "numerology" is a word that serves to denigrate mathematical realities and trigger the "math is hard" automatons.

Your posts remind me... that at the end of John's Gospel account (which is also the end of the four Gospels), he was involved in and recorded an interesting line of events (thanks KJV translators -- nice touch with the dangling participle, ambiguous antecedents)

John 21

20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

How do "we know that his testimony is true" (the one writing this stuff down, as opposed to those who would betray Jesus by running off with their exciting interpretations):

Jesus: "If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"

The disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: "If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"

Now here's a real head-scratcher (/s, just in case):

Revelation 1

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

John of all people. The one who ended up on some island basically on his own on account of the word of God, to watch the surf roll in or whatever else appeared in view.

Of course, there's actually some debate out there if the John who was given the Revelation of Jesus Christ is the same John who wrote the Gospel of John. I'm merely pointing that out.

Well, who's John, anyway? John might even be the most common name on the planet, what with all the language variants.

John pretty much could be anyone. John Doe... John the Apostle... John the Baptist...

Even Elijah. You know, the Hebrew Scriptures record that he ascended into heaven on a whirlwild without seeing death, but then as the New Testament says, he returned as a new baby named John. That's just what's in there on either side, regardless of who believes what. The name John kind of mushroomed from there.

Matthew 11

12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

New parents, new home town. There's an entire scene with Zacharias praying in the Temple and then when Gabriel shows up in answer to his prayers... Zecharias was like Wait, Wut? We're told old for that. (I'm paraphrasing, but of course the eagle-eyed types might be on high alert).

I mean if he were praying directly for a son, what was the issue? Who even thinks to ask.

Imagine... an entire nation came forth from parents who were "too old". He could have drawn on the obvious history lesson and embraced the report, eager to pick up a romantic CD on his way home.. fancy candles.. special wine..

Luke 1

59 And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father.
60 And his mother answered and said, Not so; but he shall be called John.
61 And they said unto her, There is none of thy kindred that is called by this name.
62 And they made signs to his father, how he would have him called.
63 And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying, His name is John. And they marvelled all.
64 And his mouth was opened immediately, and his tongue loosed, and he spake, and praised God.

HIS. NAME. IS. JOHN.

Anyway, he was a good sport so it all worked out. I do wonder if Gabriel had trouble keeping a straight face.

Gotta work with folks. It's so hard to find good help these days..

The information channels are so corrupted with exciting reports that if the Messiah believed the settled doctrines -- what everyone "knows" -- he'd never be able to recognize himself.

Now this is just my opinion, but it seems to me like that *is* the purpose of the party line. The whole idea is to keep the "bad man" away under the color of law and/or love, because he's the one who would inform people that their sins are forgiven so you all can knock it off and get on up now and get busy with a little building project.

That would cause a stampede like that meme with the little boy holding up the "Dad" sign.

Whatever works.

9 posted on 10/05/2023 4:31:28 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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