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Video: Anti-Genesis Evolutionists, You’ve Been Caught Lying About Fossils
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 8/23 | Answers in Genesis

Posted on 09/14/2023 1:14:25 AM PDT by spirited irish

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1 posted on 09/14/2023 1:14:25 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: sphinx; grcuster; Jonty30; Nervous Tick; reviled downesdad; sauropod; metmom; ViLaLuz; ...

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2 posted on 09/14/2023 1:16:30 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Fish that die in the sea wouldn’t stand much of a chance of not being eaten pretty quickly. That alone flies in the face of an edible item being ignored for an evolutionist’s needed millions of years to turn into a fossil.


3 posted on 09/14/2023 1:58:28 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: spirited irish

most dead fish float; they don’t sink.

Temporarily, then they sink to the bottom like everything else. Leaves on the water float...then they sink.

C’mon...


4 posted on 09/14/2023 2:31:04 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: spirited irish

Bkmk


5 posted on 09/14/2023 2:48:34 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: Adder

Facts? You’re not supposed to bring facts to a young earther thread.


6 posted on 09/14/2023 3:29:13 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: spirited irish

As a Christian, I have no problem with an old earth in Genesis.

It appears clear to me that God was using the term ‘Day’ in Genisis as a metaphor for a phase rather than a 24 hr period where the earth makes a 360deg revolution.

In fact, as I recall, the earth doesn’t even make a revolution in its journey around the sun until day two or three. Consequently, the term ‘day’ must be a metaphor


7 posted on 09/14/2023 3:41:57 AM PDT by teppe
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To: BlackbirdSST

Are you aware that holy scripture is the inspired, inerrant Word of God? Emphasis in this instance on the term “inerrant”?


8 posted on 09/14/2023 3:42:38 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: teppe

More Genesis metaphors? (Not simply “day”, but also parts of what we refer to as a day)?:
1:5 “...and there was evening and morning one day.”
1:8 “...and the evening and morning were the second day.”
1:13: “And the evening and the morning were the third day.”
1:19: “And the evening and morning were the fourth day.”
1:23: “And the evening and morning were the fifth day.”
1:31: “And the evening and morning were the sixth day.”


9 posted on 09/14/2023 3:53:56 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Adder

Yeah... reality doesn’t sit well with some folks.


10 posted on 09/14/2023 3:56:52 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Are you aware that holy scripture is the inspired, inerrant Word of God?

What does that have to do with it? Are you unaware that dead fish float...then they sink? Where in the Bible does it say different?

11 posted on 09/14/2023 4:41:49 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: teppe
Time is relative. In his book, The Science of God: The Convergence of Scientific and Biblical Wisdom, Gerald L. Schroeder describes how the seven days of Genesis were both 7 24 hour days, and billions of years. A really fascinating read. He is a scientist and biblical scholar

The Bible was written by God. We measure time from our perspective. But time is not a constant. In his book, he has a chart that by shows the six days of creation side by side with a scriptural description and a ‘scientific’ description of events. Truly amazing.

12 posted on 09/14/2023 4:45:08 AM PDT by FatherofFive (I support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: spirited irish

There’s no gotcha: I’ve ALWAYS learned, including from very old books, the circumstances which lead to fossilization are very unique and rare. And that this presents a great challenge to scientists trying to understand what ancient fauna was really like: are these the organisms that were common, or just the ones that were most readily trapped in sediment?

But what this video does NOT explain is why fossils correlate so well with radio carbon dating and layers. Now, there are plenty of gotcha games: a T-Rex’s skull is large, so unlike silt, it will project upwards. And sedimentation does rarely progress at a perfect, gradual rate. And erosion does mean that sometimes a fossil is found within younger rocks. That’s all why U-236 dating, which is 99 to 99.9% precise, is so important.

I don’t know exactly how to interpret the 11 chapters of Genesis which take place before Abraham provides us with a witness. I find it no harder to accept that God created an old-looking universe than that Adam had a belly button. (Think of why he had one.) But the universe does genuinely appear old.


13 posted on 09/14/2023 5:02:03 AM PDT by dangus
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To: spirited irish
As a recovering catholic, I have no bone in the fight when I state that there are many paradoxes in the 'bible'.

For example,

https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/73790/a-living-soul-cannot-exist-without-a-body-gen-27-1-cor-1544-45-but-killing

https://www.openbible.info/topics/human_soul

I will not debate this, only to state that humans wrote, translated and translated again a collection of texts which would become the 'bible' under the church, the most accurate texts being the very oldest writings discovered on the scrolls.

That stated, the 'word of God' is open to interpretation due to said translations by imperfect humans and, despite biblical scholars rewriting and retranslating the texts over thousands of years, there exists even today significant inconsistencies.

For example, to take Genesis literally, there were no souls in the beginning (e.g., God 'created Heaven').

Faith is to each his own, and if we all agreed on one version of 'word of God', there would be only one religion, one church and one text.

So, feel free to debate, but technically religion and science are diametrically opposed, and thus direct comparisons - i.e., fossils vs. creationism - is antithetical to logical thinking.

Metaphorically, this represents the 'science vs. religion debate':


14 posted on 09/14/2023 6:00:06 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: spirited irish

So where are the studies showing how fish fossils are formed?
Someone should be able to demonstrate this?
Set up a lab with a bunch of fish tanks, and then run different scenarios of fish kills. Which ones result in petrified fish?
We have pretty good evidence that rapid burial is a factor.
But the mostly juvenile comments in this post are not helpful.


15 posted on 09/14/2023 6:08:32 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Adder

Another fact: You are a true Freeper and commented without watching the video or reading the article.

That isn’t a slam, it’s just an observation. No harm intended.

EC


16 posted on 09/14/2023 6:10:32 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: teppe
Indeed. The old, classic question; "In Genesis, how long is a day? With the Almighty in control, could a 'day' be a billion years?

"Genesis and the Big Bang" is a great read.

17 posted on 09/14/2023 6:35:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should be less concerned with who we might offend and more concerned with who we inspire.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Man asks God, “What’s a million years to you?”

God says, “A second.”

Then the Man asks God, “What’s a million dollars to you?”

God says, “A penny.”

Then the man asks God, “Can I have a penny?”

And God said, “Sure, just give me a second.”


18 posted on 09/14/2023 6:39:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Ex-Con777

Another fact: You are a true Freeper and commented without watching the video or reading the article”

This is not directed at you, but just a general observation. I won’t comment on the dispute because I didn’t watch the video (and could not find an “article.”) But that’s my complaint, videos.

I won’t watch them. With cell phones and the internet, everyone thinks they are a TeeVee star. If someone doesn’t have the ability or won’t take the trouble to write a short summary article, why should I listen to their blather? I don’t do it and won’t do it.

Put it on Substack and give me a link.

Signed,
Cranky Old Guy


19 posted on 09/14/2023 6:42:22 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Adder

i guess you didn’t watch the video...


20 posted on 09/14/2023 7:04:00 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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