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Posted on 09/12/2023 8:03:49 PM PDT by ebb tide
Give this a rest, troll. Your recent thread is at 377 and still counting.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4181595/posts
Yet here you are with another useless thread designed to stir up emotions between Christians and Catholics.
Actually, these posts explain the mind of godfather Joey. The doctrine covers the full sphere.. just roll out a new and improved tradition.. I mean doctrine…. Not one shred of Scripture required…they have a church, who needs Christ..
Faith alone was all that was required of the Patriarchs. But roman catholicism would rather pervert the minds of their followers and have them kiss the ring of their pope.
Sola Scriptura
So obvious is the Truth that even a roman catholic should be able to interpret. It’s impossible that through the Law we find our Salvation, but through the shed Blood of our Lord and Saviour comes Life everlasting.
When the Author of Hebrews, who I believe to be Paul, addressed the Judaizers, he exhibited the Old Testament Patriarchs. Hebrews chapter 11 ( Known as the Hall of Faith chapter) Paul listed those that have successfully found that path to Salvation. Was it Law that granted them Life everlasting? Nay. It was Grace. Through Faith believing in Him that was sent to wash away our sins.
OLD TESTAMENT PATRIARCHS
Hebrews 11:4
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4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
Hebrews 11:5
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5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Hebrews 11:7
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7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Hebrews 11:8
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8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Hebrews 11:11
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11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.
Hebrews 11:21
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21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff.
Hebrews 11:22
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22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
Hebrews 11:23
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23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment.
Hebrews 11:31
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31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
Hebrews 11:13
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13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
quote: “I have a Bible, Torch.”
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Instead of trying to disprove the Scriptures because your cult teaches against the Scriptures, placing tradition above them, you ought to pick it up and read it sometime.
I do, torch, everyday.
And I have yet come across “by scripture alone”.
If it isn’t written in Scripture, where is it written? Surely the tradition is written down somewhere? Otherwise it is secret except to a very small group of ppl. Sounds like something the other side would do...
This is the standard Catholic spiel presented to Protestants.
The Jews had their own tradition that they claimed came directly from God to Moses and was passed on via word of mouth. This today is Rabbinical Judaism. There is a small subset of Jews called Karaite that rely only on the OT for their faith. They reject the Talmud, Mishnah and all other writings that came after Malachi. Their reasoning is that since the Torah was lost during the seventy year captivity in Babylon that it would be highly unlikely that the very pagan Jews at the time had kept the oral law. This means Karaite Jews do not teach things like wearing Tefilin or having a Mezuzah on their doorposts. They instead take the most practical interpretation and see these commands of having the word of God on your minds and body and house to be symbolic. The RCC has done the same thing. They have taken clear commands that are meant to be symbolic and have slowly overtime changed them into physical rituals of outward piety.
Don’t ask me.
I reject “sola scriptura” as the lie that it is.
"How cute! Your little bible has pictures in it!"
I myself would be terrified to utter such things about the word of God.
“I have yet come across “by scripture alone”.
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I’m certain you would have hated to be in the Temple when Jesus Himself quoted Scriptures. You and your religious hypocrites would have reacted the same way as the Scribes and the Pharisee’s
Matthew 21:41-43
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41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
My Bible doesn’t have pictures in it.
Does yours?
You want to be a pedantic wiseguy when it comes to the word illustration? I happen to have a family Catholic Bible and it does indeed have pictures in it. If you want to get even more pedantic your Bible better not have any chapter or verse markers as those were added later and are not found in any original manuscripts.
And I have yet come across “by scripture alone”.
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Matthew 22:29
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29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
DOES THIS HIT HOME EBB TIDE??
I call that checkmate!!!
What part of “nor the power of God” do you not comprehend?
Go back to checkers; you may win one match out of ten if you’re lucky.
So it’s now by “pictures alone”?
you have the spirit of an athiest!
I pity your eternal future. You blaspheme the Word of God and laugh.
It is clear you do not want to have a real discussion. Instead you copy and paste a wall of text and then instead of defending what you have posted you hurl insults. You also demand that people respond to what amounts to thousands of words of text, making dozens if not hundreds of claims and want this done in a couple of minutes. Again ask me why you said it was cute that someone referenced their “little bible”
I have the confidence of belonging to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
You better worry about your own eternal future instead of mine.
I don’t think you even read the “wall of text” from your above posts.
Just a knee-jerk response.
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