[DouglasKC]

Your obviously trolling for a response with a predestined reply. So let’s skip the initial response and move forward to the point your itching to make.

I'm not trolling. I'm trying to get people to look at the bible. I'm not going to engage in a conversation where the ground rules are that we can offer traditional views as evidence that trump the bible.

[patriot torch]

Not sure of your point, but feel free to expound on your point about the Spirit.