Christ-Plus? None of what you write is truth, fiction in your mind.
So you’re saying Christ does not want us to be Baptized into his Death?
Not want us to share in his Body and Blood of Thanksgiving Worship?
Not want to be confirmed, and filled with the Holy Spirit?
Not lay hands on his disciples?
Not enter into marital union without God joining together?
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These Sacred Graces you dismiss may not be necessary for you-
does not mean they can’t be essential to those of a Christian following,
who trace them back to Christ and his Apostles, through Scripture…
and have kept that Faith to this day.
These Sacred Graces conveyed THROUGH him, and with him and in him, are not Christ-plus … but ALL-Christ eternal.
—> But We are ONLY saved through the GRACE of Christ, indirectly received.
Salvation does not come indirectly. Only directly from Him.
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PLEASE RE-Read. I type his Grace is indirectly RECEIVED. RECEIVED.
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I never said God’s Grace did not come to us directly.You’re trying to insinuate that.
Yes Salvation comes directly FROM Christ, ONLY Christ.
How many times do I need to repeat that for you?
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Now let’s talk about OUR RECEIVING side of that equation.
As I said, You can’t EARN that Grace… You can’t take it as yours
Or Proclaim it as yours….
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Saving Grace can ONLY be RECEIVED INDIRECTLY. Unless you’re Pelagius.
Look it up - INDIRECT MEANS (Oxford) not directly caused by or resulting from something. (Merriam) not directly aimed at or achieved
So there is nothing you do, to direct God’s Grace for your reception.
Knowing that, and I’m sure you’ll want to agree with it…
I don’t think you actually believe it. Are you Pelagian?
The rest of it all - the costumery, “holy water, rituals, pantheon of manufactured saints,
never save nor bring salvation.
They are pagan rituals bolted onto the Gospel.
More red-herring fallacy.
The Church has NEVER taught sacramentals like Holy Water bring salvation.
Your just making that up.
Like the Crucifix, which IS an icon of our Salvation,
Still does not bring us Salvation- but yet does keep us Focused on Christ-
and a Christ-centered life for us in this world.
As daily sinners, we need daily reminders - rituals to think of Christ, and remind us of His Sacrifice.
The battle is a daily spiritual battle.
We take the Cross into this battle, and not for the sake of being saved.
We can’t earn that.
Blessed (must be) are those who do not need anything to keep Christ central in their lives.
No. I never said that.
Nor any of the other things you list. You made that all up.
I said they give no grace that leads to salvation. None. Salvation comes through faith in Christ alone.