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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The whole purgatory theology simply reinforces that Roman Catholicism teaches that the atoning work of Christ on the cross was NOT enough to give salvation and fully cleanse a person from their sins.

We have had our record of sin debt that stood against us canceled and when we got born again, we were transferred into the kingdom of Jesus, the Son God lovers, and are currently seated with Christ in the heavenly places.

THAT is how we can know where we are going when we die. We are positionally, in the spiritual realm, already there. Salvation is NOW, not just a future event.


1,035 posted on 08/25/2023 5:12:20 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

—>We have had our record of sin debt that stood against us canceled and when we got born again, we were transferred into the kingdom of Jesus, the Son God lovers, and are currently seated with Christ in the heavenly places.

I agree in part, for all those who had a death bed conversion, like the thief on the cross, etc… AT THAT MOMENT, their PAST sins were forgiven and they were essentially made perfect/righteous. Then, they died. For them, judgement is assured. For the rest of us, who go on living after that moment (grace), we are judged on the decisions and actions we make over the rest of our lives, as we claim to live for Christ, claiming the blood of His covenant. The Nicolaitan doctrine of OSAS/OJAJ is a Satanic lie, already condemned by Christ in Revelation.

—>THAT is how we can know where we are going when we die. We are positionally, in the spiritual realm, already there. Salvation is NOW, not just a future event.

Judgment happens AFTER death, and willfully sinning after Grace, WHILE ONE IS ALIVE, all the time claiming Christ and the blood of His covenant, will certainly affect it. It is as if they follow a certain cloven-footed Pied Piper, playing the pan flute, mesmerized, ears itching, refusing to believe the truth of God’s immutable and binding law. What a shame.

Here are just a few of the many related texts:

Matthew 7:
21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice LAWLESSNESS!’

Hebrews 10:
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, THE LORD SHALL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Let me emphasize this: THE LORD SHALL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE.....HIS PEOPLE. And...

1 Peter 4:
17For the time has come for JUDGMENT TO BEGIN AT THE HOUSE OF GOD; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18Now

“If the righteous one is scarcely saved,
Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”

19Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.

Revelation 21:
6And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7HE WHO OVERCOMES shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”


1,039 posted on 08/25/2023 7:26:38 AM PDT by Philsworld
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