Posted on 08/03/2023 7:56:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
However, atheism needs there to be complex life outside Earth to show that Earth and its inhabitants weren't uniquely created.
God is a Creator and sustainer of life. He’s not limited to His ability tondo that.
But I dont think humanity will be permitted until after the Messiah.
When you find them and can communicate with them ask them about God, their answer will tell me everything I need to know about them.
Correct.
My personal belief is that there are no ETs. We are alone.
If we're not alone, then we are far enough away from others that we'll never find them.
It means nothing to Christianity except that God’s creation is even more vast and wonderful than most peoples’ imagination.
A Great Falling away.
It means nothing, until there’s anything even half approaching physical evidence that space travelers have ever arrived here. So far, in the entire history of mankind, there is nothing, that anyone has ever publicly presented.
Therefore, the scriptures, and experiences of the churches throughout history, and astronomers, would lend much more credence to the theory that these types of witnessed events are more spiritual in nature, or environmental, and not of biological composure.
We already believe in ETs’
They are angels and demons and God tells us all we need to know about them in Scripture.
What it means is more converts.
C’mon, it’s like the opening up of Japan.
And, unless y’all openly endorse bestiality, you don’t have to worry so much about (more) pervies coming into the church.
IIRC, The reverend Billy Graham was once asked about alien life on other planets, and his response was (paraphrasing) “Yes there IS life on other planets, and our God is their God too”.
They are angels and demons and God tells us all we need to know about them in Scripture.
Yes. There are already entities with intelligence and powers superior to those of a man, who are not God.
The possibility the phenomena we call UFOs are demonic or angelic related is reasonable.
The presence or absence of extra-terrestrials has no impact on Christianity.
But your point “atheism needs there to be complex life outside Earth to show that Earth and its inhabitants weren’t uniquely created.”
is wrong.
Atheism is just “there is no God, I truly believe that” - and it is not depend on life being unique or not, on ETs or not
But only in the hypothetical sense so far, mind you.
I am in the process of reading “RETURN OF THE GODS” Johnathon Cahn, NY Times #3. It is absolutely fascinating, posing some interesting questions.
This again? I remember theologians debating this fifty years ago!
“...spiritual in nature, or environmental, and not of biological composure.”
All these phrases are man’s use of language. In our history in the US, the government and their hired employees have gone out of their way to disprove anything in this nature. The original regulations in the Army/Air Corp books concerning UFO’s was not there to give a chance to identify a sighting, but to find ways to unidentify them. And Project Bright Star before Blue Book did the same thing.
From 1947 to 1969, the Air Force investigated Unidentified Flying Objects under Project Blue Book. The project, headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, was terminated Dec. 17, 1969. Of a total of 12,618 sightings reported to Project Blue Book, 701 remained “unidentified.” What this tells me is not that they didn’t happen. It tells me they can come up with a logical description of the sightings for 11,917. But what about the other 701? And everything about identifying them depends totally upon faith in the people that are telling you what you saw.
Doesn’t that raise a red flag?
wy69
“If we’re not alone, then we are far enough away from others that we’ll never find them.”
It could be that the distances between stars are so great we simply will never know whether we are alone or not.
Over the years there have been many Christian scientists (not to be confused with Christian Science) who have pointed out the major complexity in organisms that make life work, in our environment that makes Earth habitable for advanced life, and even properties in our solar system and Milky Way galaxy that show so many many things have to be just right for us to be alive. That random chance couldn't make it happen, but things had to be fine tuned by an intelligent mind.
The main rebuttal by atheists against that argument is that the universe is vast and with seemingly endless galaxies and star systems, making random chance a possible mechanism to produce an every now and then environment for advanced life. Thus, if random chance is what made advanced life on Earth it stands to reason that random chance has made it happen elsewhere as well. But the longer we go without finding ET's the more it looks like our situation was uniquely created.
Sure, there are countless “unidentified” flying objects. I saw something once that appeared incredibly sophisticated. Three lights that put on an amazing show, for 20+ minutes, so much so that cars were pulled off the side of the road to watch, and it made the newspaper the next day. But extraterrestrial? No proof of that. Better odds it came from one of the close by military bases, of which there were several to choose from.
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