Christians Talk About UFOs: With Dr. Gary Bates

PatriotandLiberty ^ | 2021 | Remnant Radio

[RoosterRedux]

Well done.

A person who goes out of his/her way to scream, "I'm not interested in UFO's" on a UFO thread is obviously interested.

What we're seeing is a lot of denial...

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[RoosterRedux]

As a retired USAF air traffic controller, have you encountered a lot of UFO’s?

[Mark17]

I am certainly not dogmatic, but my understanding, is that after Satan’s initial rebellion, they still had access to the heavenlies. Remember in Job, where the Sons of God appeared before God and Satan was among them. After the Revelation chapter 12 war, they will no longer have access to the heavens. Just my understanding, and not dogmatic about it. 😊😆

[MeganC]

I don’t think you’re too far apart with at least some of the people on this topic.

Myself I am reasonably convinced that UFO/UAP devices/craft are real.

While I will not rule out the possibility of extraterrestrial life I am also not interested in wishing this to be true. Therefore UFO/UAP evidence is only evidence of UFO/UAP. Nothing else.

More likely is a terrestrial origin for this technology. Most likely IMHO is the USAF controls this technology and they cover it up by making people seem like kooks who see it and report it.

In the 1950’s and 1960’s the USAF deliberately fanned the flames of UFO fringe talk to cover up the existence of the SR-71 and U-2 spy planes.

I suspect the USAF is denying information to Congress (even in SCIF) to keep this technology secret.

It just seems to fit what we are seeing these days.

[RoosterRedux]

Well, you raise a good point about Satan in Job. I have heard many different theories, but it's still a mystery.

One commentater made the point that the term "Satan" isn't a name but a job description (that might have been Heiser) and another said that the Satan in Job may be an entirely different person than the dragon in Revelation and Satan elsewhere in the Bible.

Whatever the answer, this matter is certainly above my pay grade.

[Mark17]

As a retired USAF air traffic controller, have you encountered a lot of UFO’s?

Not a single one. I never knew any other controller who did either, or at least, not one who would admit it. We were told, and I don’t know if they were joking, but they always told us, if we ever saw a UFO, not to admit it, or we would be filling out mountains of paperwork.
Many say that UFOs have been picked up on radar. I am not convinced of that. I used radar for 20 years. I never saw what I thought was a UFO. I am not positive I didn’t either. What I am saying is, that radar picks up aircraft rather well, especially aircraft with IFF/SIF. I believe UFOs are real (fallen angels, trying to deceive) but will they show up on radar? They might, but I am not convinced of it.

[Mark17]

One commentater made the point that the term "Satan" isn't a name but a job description

I heard that too, and I tend toward thinking it’s true. (not dogmatic) We might not even know what the devil’s real name is. Some say his name is Helel, but it’s possible that God considers the devil to be so insignificant, that He has never told us the devil’s real name. Who knows for sure?

[sarge83]

I am wondering if the angels use technology and Armageddon spoken of in the Bible really will be a kinetic war and not in the spiritual realm. I personally have never seen a UFO, but I have friends and relatives, some with security clearances that are on the higher end of that food chain that have witnessed them. They had their sighting before they ever thought about entering government. Others saw things they couldn’t explain such as objects making high G movements, stops and shooting back into the same position in the sky, a move which would kill a human pilot with conventional technology.

I suspect some are man-made and items we have been able to create or reverse engineer and the deep state simply isn’t going to tell the public unless they are made too. I also believe some of the sightings are legitimately “alien” in nature but from other dimensions as opposed to interstellar in nature.

[Maris Crane]

I believe your suspicions are right on the mark.

I never thought of the military as blatant liars until recently.

I’m a little late, Folks.

[cgbg]

This is a great discussion and analysis by a scientist who has studied the topic for decades:

https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Yes sir - good list there.

[Wilderness Conservative]

I believe they exist but have no interest in the subject at this time.

[ViLaLuz]

Great interview. I read Bates’ book when it first came out and saw the movie. I believe they are demonic spirits from another realm. Some sightings, too, could be from psychosis or hallucination. When I was around 8 or 9 I saw a UFO. It filled me with fear and Ifelt paralyzed. It looked like a flat disc in the sky, about the size of a harvest moon. It was still daylight in the evening. The disc stayed in one spot about 45° in the sky and changed colors. Then it quickly faded away. I did live near an AFB back in the day and saw what I now realize was an early Stealth aircraft, so who knows it could have been something from the base.

[schaef21]

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