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US Jews mourn the anniversary of the fall of Roe with a yahrzeit American Jews lit a candle made to burn for 24 hours to remember the souls of people who have died in forced births.
Religion News Service ^ | June 23, 2023 | Yonat Shimron

Posted on 07/11/2023 9:26:18 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana
Rather than admit themselves wrong, people often go to great lengths to destroy anything that would reveal their errors and immoralities.

This appears to be the case with many liberals, including some Jews. Instead of owning up to their self-deceptions (on such things as abortion), they are compelled to annihilate anyone or anything that could expose their hypocrisies--even if it means allying themselves with demons, or sacrificing what they once held dear.

41 posted on 07/12/2023 12:45:38 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Gene Eric

Want to see Jews mourning? Just turn your TV on to any PBS station...its 24/7/365. Same with downtrodden blacks fighting the man. Taxpayer supported perpetual misery propaganda.


42 posted on 07/12/2023 12:59:10 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Morgana
" and mourning those who have died because abortions were not available to them."

Huh??? Name one...

43 posted on 07/12/2023 1:54:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Jess Kitting

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44 posted on 07/12/2023 2:19:18 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: Varsity Flight

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45 posted on 07/12/2023 2:20:39 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: Morgana
--- "US Jews mourn the anniversary of the fall of Roe with a yahrzeit American Jews lit a candle made to burn for 24 hours to remember the souls of people who have died in forced births."

The yahrzeit -- year's time is the direct translation -- is an anniversary of a death day OF AN INDIVIDUAL. The candle is an outward expression of it. The death OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

This Zoom crop of "Jews" does not reflect all Jews, anymore than Biden reflects all Americans. The stunt -- memorialize a Supreme Court decision -- is an utter misuse of the whole tradition. And contemptible.

But as we see across Christian denominations as well as Jewish, the schisms are ever more easily being seem. The "liberals" will turn their traditions to the service of liberal politics, while the Jewish Orthodox and Christian Orthodox and other traditionalists will not. Plain and simple, Leftist politics has infected pulpits and the media is amplifying politics by subverting religions -- plural.

Reading through the comments at that web page would be most instructive.

46 posted on 07/12/2023 2:54:29 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Morgana

On FR, itโ€™s been explained to me, that anytime any Jew does anything wrong theyโ€™re โ€œnot really Jewishโ€.(JINO)

This allows Jews here the ability to never take responsibility for anything, and if you question that, youโ€™re a Nazi.

Not really Jews:
Epstein, Weinstein, Madoff, SBF, Soros, Rothschild, Fink, etc.


47 posted on 07/12/2023 3:27:10 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: nevermorelenore

You nailed it, 100%!

They are JINO’s. They worship the God of the New York Times and leftwing government.

America is filled with them. I would estimate that 90% of Jews in America are actually heathen self-loathing JINO’s. They are the base of the Biden regime. /double spit


48 posted on 07/12/2023 4:06:56 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Morgana

“US Jews mourn the anniversary of the fall of Roe with a yahrzeit American Jews lit a candle made to burn for 24 hours to remember the souls of people who have died in forced births.”
But not the souls of those who were slaughtered in the womb.
Delusional Jews think that because THEY don’t recognize that a new person is among us until birth, they can tell themselves they are not murdering a person - even one just minutes from natural birth - and all is well so they can continue their lives without guilt.


49 posted on 07/12/2023 4:24:12 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: Morgana

There are real Jews and then there are JINOs. JINOS still worship Baal and Moloch as they have since Moses went up on the mountain.


50 posted on 07/12/2023 4:29:54 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Haven't a few Catholic bishops denied Communion to Biden and Pelosi, who call themselves Catholics? The Catholic Church is one centralized organization, but even so, not all their bishops have denied their sacraments to pro-abortion politicians.

Like Protestantism, Judaism is highly fragmented and to a great extent congregational. Unlike Protestants, Jews exist as an ethnicity as well as a religion. Some groups that are rooted in Protestant background, such as Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Unitarians, have ceased being Protestant. The wide spectrum of Jewish beliefs, or for that matter nonbelief, does not disqualify any of their adherents from being Jewish. Only leaving Judaism for Christianity, Islam, or some other religion is the point of separation.

51 posted on 07/12/2023 5:00:35 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Morgana

They are really mourning the loss of the money abortion clinics have lost over the last year.


52 posted on 07/12/2023 5:15:09 AM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: Morgana

It’s like mourning people who fell out of a guard tower


53 posted on 07/12/2023 5:17:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Wallace T.
--- "The wide spectrum of Jewish beliefs, or for that matter nonbelief, does not disqualify any of their adherents from being Jewish."

Because there is no official and religion-wide authority within Judaism, it seems hard to grasp as an entity. The notion that " Jews exist as an ethnicity as well as a religion" is falling away, because one deals with words which -- like today's flummoxing "what is a woman?" -- have little clear definition. It is a little like the theme of Pirandello's play, "Right You Are (if you think so)."

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_You_Are_(if_you_think_so)

I had the occasion decades ago to discuss with two somewhat important Catholic theologians, and posed a question: "if after almost two thousand years, the second coming has not occurred and another two thousand years goes by without the second coming, what will the future hold for Christianity?"

They both thought, and answered with opposing views. One said ,"given more than 40 thousand distinct Christian churches (and schisms), another two millennia would bring twice as many." The other said, "the Church would have enough time to bring all back into the one true church."

In another anecdote, I managed to ask a Reform and Orthodox rabbi (as well as a couple of Protestant ministers) about Traumatic Brain Injury, or massive aphasia, when the loss of language as a mental model was complete. Howard Gardner in "Multiple Intelligences Theory" and Oliver Sacks are among those observing that mental modules sometimes are "separable" such that the injured brain may continue to function while a single function "dies."

The question: Can one have a relationship with God after severe aphasia. The Reform rabbi said "no, because all religion is conducted in language." Period. The Orthodox said, "no, because haShem -- the name -- is required, but then added he rejected his own answer for the sake of God and soul."

The Protestants and Catholics I surveyed in this small anecdote responded in like and varying manner. After all, as one Presbyterian observed, "at the name of Jesus...." Without the name, there cannot be religion, religion itself being language-based and rooted in the language domain of mind. Ergo, I rather favor the Orthodox rabbi's response, as above.

Taken together, these interesting responses suggested to me why Pirandello's play's theme is a part of mankind. The Wiki in part summarizes: " The theme is conflicting versions of the truth told by the main characters, each of whom claims the other is insane." Substitute "religious" for "insane," and we can summarize the conundrum.

"Each claims the other is...."

With respect, your remark "Like Protestantism, Judaism is highly fragmented" could be perhaps too general. Protestantism is itself wildly fragmented. If you wish more source material, I would happily offer citations.

One reads: "The majority of contemporary Protestants are members of Adventism, Anglicanism, the Baptist churches, Calvinism (Reformed Protestantism), Lutheranism, Methodism and Pentecostalism. Nondenominational, Evangelical, charismatic, neo-charismatic, independent, Convergence, and other churches are on the rise, and constitute a significant part of Protestant Christianity. This list gives only an overview, and certainly does not mention all of the Protestant denominations. The exact number of Protestant denominations, including the members of the denominations, is difficult to calculate and depends on definition. A group that fits the generally accepted definition of 'Protestant' might not officially use the term."

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations#Protestant

So this returns to your assertion that, as an example, Unitarians are not Protestant. The question is one of definitions, it seems.

One reads: "Unitarianism and Universalism began as independent traditions emerging from the liberal Protestant Reformation period of the Christian faith."

See: https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/christianity-unitarianism-and-universalism

Lastly, to add to the general diffuse nature of the topic, you assert "Only leaving Judaism for Christianity, Islam, or some other religion is the point of separation." And yet the "Jews for Jesus is an international Christian missionary organization headquartered in San Francisco, California that is affiliated with the Messianic Jewish religious movement."

So one is brought back the Gordian knot of defining religion and religious differences. This is why I mentioned the title of the Pirandello play.

Best wishes with the sincere expectation that your particular faith may be strengthened, while others in the Judeo-Christian world who might differ from your faith may as well.

54 posted on 07/12/2023 6:44:56 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Morgana
Not all Jews, particularly not the Orthodox.

Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism are Jewish flavored denominations of the Democratic Party.

55 posted on 07/12/2023 7:04:13 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: imabadboy99

Bingo!


56 posted on 07/12/2023 7:50:43 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: Salman
--- "Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism are Jewish flavored denominations of the Democratic Party."

Pardon yet another personal anecdote in this thread. Decades ago, I was at an event with some VERY Reform congregation at which the local Democrat congress critter (a Catholic) was the only speaker. It was indeed merely a Democrat Party campaign event, wrapped in non-kosher colors. Enough to call it "Jewish?" Not to my view.

57 posted on 07/12/2023 7:56:09 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: EEGator

see post 2.


58 posted on 07/12/2023 7:57:39 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: Salman

The joke that has always gone around is that the only difference between Reform Judaism and the Democrat Party are the holidays.


59 posted on 07/12/2023 7:59:26 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: Morgana
Do you honestly believe these are Charedi Jews doing this? You do understand that only "Orthodox Judaism" is Judaism, right?

That being said, the authentic Jewish position on abortion is not the same as the Catholic one. (Neither is the Protestant one.)

60 posted on 07/12/2023 8:01:29 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (ื‘ืจืืฉื™ืช ื‘ืจื ืืœืงื™ื ืืช ื”ืฉืžื™ื ื•ืืช ื”ืืจืฅ)
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