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Newark Cardinal Asks Americans to Voluntarily Forgo Right to Guns
Crux ^ | 6/1/23 | John Lavenburg

Posted on 06/04/2023 6:10:32 PM PDT by marshmallow

NEW YORK – Amid a mounting debate in America over the constitutionality of gun control, Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark has entered the fray with a different argument: That people should voluntarily forgo their Second Amendment rights for the betterment of society.

“I honestly believe it is the best thing we can do to change the culture of violence that threatens us today,” Tobin said.

“Let’s voluntarily set aside our rights in order to witness the truth that only peace and never violence, is the way to build a free society that is lived concretely in our homes, our neighborhoods, our communities, our nation and our world,” he said.

Tobin made the plea in a recent letter, “Pray for an end to all instances of violence,” where he calls on community leaders and Catholic bishops, himself included, to call for a “synodal effort” to actively resist gun violence. He proposed a threefold process that includes prayer and work, advocacy, and voluntary self-restraint from the Second Amendment.

The letter, published May 26, is the latest call to action amid a spate of mass shootings in recent months. May 30 marked the 150th day of 2023, over which time there have been 263 mass shootings – incidents with four or more people shot – that have led to 327 deaths.

Both figures are records for this early in the year.

Memorial Day weekend was especially violent. Nationwide there were at least 20 mass shootings that left 16 people dead, and at least 80 more injured.

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1 posted on 06/04/2023 6:10:32 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

What a maroon.


2 posted on 06/04/2023 6:12:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: marshmallow
Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark has entered the fray with a different argument: That people should voluntarily forgo their Second Amendment rights for the betterment of society.

As soon as the Cardinal forgoes his First Amendment rights.

3 posted on 06/04/2023 6:13:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: marshmallow

Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark needs to voluntarily shut his piehole.


4 posted on 06/04/2023 6:14:38 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: marshmallow

Ask the thug criminals and thug govt agents to do so first. See how that works out.

This level of totalitarianism passing itself off as enlightened Christianity is ridiculous.

Everyone who disarms ignores their responsibilities to their families. And thus, more indirectly, society as a whole.


5 posted on 06/04/2023 6:15:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marshmallow

Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

I think the temporal religious leader has it all wrong.


6 posted on 06/04/2023 6:15:57 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Robert357

👍👍👍


7 posted on 06/04/2023 6:18:12 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: marshmallow

Have the ghettos surrender their guns and 90 percent of the murders would go away. Gee your Eminence, whaddyatink?


8 posted on 06/04/2023 6:19:08 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: marshmallow

Stupid. The ones that will voluntarily give up their weapons are not the cause of gun violence.


9 posted on 06/04/2023 6:19:26 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: marshmallow

Left-wing cardinals — is there anything they don’t know?


10 posted on 06/04/2023 6:19:30 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: marshmallow
Uh....NO!

My job is to protect my family, NOT to capitulate to criminals.

How about asking Catholics to avoid Adultery, which includes homosexual behavior.

And maybe toss in a reminder not to procure, perform, or promote Abortion?

11 posted on 06/04/2023 6:20:02 PM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

How about religious freedom. The right he is asking people to for go is a basic because it deals with self protection and basic human freedom.


12 posted on 06/04/2023 6:22:19 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: marshmallow

While you’re at it, pkease refrain from religious liberty and speech. Give all caesars money back to him.

Will he volunteer the perverted priests and bishops TRUTH without lawyers?

Ben Franklin’s quote comes to mind....throw him in a work camp.


13 posted on 06/04/2023 6:22:34 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: marshmallow

Finding it difficult to even believe he said that. Must be a hoax. So, some of us don’t believe catholicism (and especially islam) should be allowed to exist in the United States, how about the “padre” and his followers quit catholicism voluntarily? Wonder what his reply to that would be? Well?


14 posted on 06/04/2023 6:23:09 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: marshmallow

I ask Newark Cardinal to forgo his free speech rights and shut his piehole.


15 posted on 06/04/2023 6:23:54 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: marshmallow

Sorry, Cardinal Tobin, but I will Forgo Welsh priests.


16 posted on 06/04/2023 6:24:08 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: marshmallow

Sorry, Cardinal Tobin, but I will Forgo Welsh priests.


17 posted on 06/04/2023 6:24:09 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: marshmallow

Allowing his flock to be helplessly under the control of teens, thugs, drug crazed criminals and violent felons allowed out of prison is......immoral and sinful.

I assume he is kissing up and pandering to the woke crowd to seem non-judgmental, stylish, trendy and up to date -—or he may be expressing his true feelings and being honest.
If somebody says the trend is mothers being part-time prostitutes and fathers setting up heroin selling out of their homes, would the religious leaders go along to be popular and modern?

“Since 1970, weekly church attendance among Catholics has dropped from 55% to 20%, the number of priests declined from 59,000 to 35,000 and the number of people who left Catholicism increased from under 2 million in 1975 to over 30 million today.”

and

Washington D.C., Mar 29, 2021

“The percentage of Catholics who say they are a “member” of a church has dropped by nearly 20 points since the year 2000, according to a new report by Gallup released on Monday.

Among respondents who said they were Catholic, only 58% actually said they were a member of a church. This figure is down 18 points from the 76% of Catholics who said they were a member of the Church, in a previous Gallup survey from 1998-2000.

In the past decade, Catholics saw a twice-as-steep decline in members than did Protestants, which saw a 9% decline in professed members of churches from 73% to 64%.”


18 posted on 06/04/2023 6:24:19 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: marshmallow

Tax The Church!


19 posted on 06/04/2023 6:24:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: G Larry
And, um, THIS:

And maybe toss in a reminder not to procure, perform, or promote abortion?

20 posted on 06/04/2023 6:25:03 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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