Posted on 04/24/2023 6:08:38 PM PDT by ebb tide
So one guy on an obscure radio show backs into the truth in a roundabout way.
Meanwhile all the other Catholics and KJV-only zombies stumble around in ignorance.
It gives the appearance of using the death penalty to score political points. Brings back memories of Pope John Paul II asking Bush to pardon a death row inmate. Bush ignored the plea for the political appearance of being tough on crime.
It is a loss of points for DeSantis on this one for me.
Absolute nonsense.
Agreed, they should get out of that habit.
Well the Catholics are of a branch that rarely consult the bible for whats right.
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How old are you?
And therein lies the rub.
Diving justice is inerrant.
Human justice is not.
Divine justice is inerrant.
Well the Catholics are of a branch that rarely consult the bible for whats right.
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Exactly what all Pentecostal snake handlers are taught to believe. Look, you should stop writing such nonsense and find someone to teach you how to compose grammatically correct sentences! You’re embarrassing other Freepers!
Meanwhile all the other Catholics and KJV-only zombies stumble around in ignorance.
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Don’t know about the “zombies” but any Christian teaching/doctrine/belief that is contrary to the doctrines of the Faith as set forth by the Council of Trent is, ipso facto, WRONG (and always will be wrong)!
Diving justice is inerrant.
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You mean like the inerrancy of this sentence you posted?
Exactly Secret Agent Man's point.
Who needs the Bible when you have church dogma and councils to dictate "truth"?
If the death penalty is wrong, why did Christ pay it for us?
Incarceration is a penalty.
Execution is the permanent removal of a human being who has proven to be so hideous a threat to society that the action perfectly eliminates the chance that society will ever again be harmed by this monster. This is not a “penalty”, rather it is a firm solution to protect us all.
p.s. Incarceration should mandate working to pay for your own room and board, fitness facility, cable TV etc. Non criminals don’t get these things for free and neither should the incarcerated.
...that is all
Rather, aside from use of Scripture for devotion and doctrines that are actually taught therein, they search the bible for texts which support distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels)
Which includes the novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial veracity as per Rome, whereby the word of God only authoritatively consists of and means what she asserts, which includes the aforementioned premise.
For Rome has presumed to infallibly declare she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula, which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares, and presumes protection from at least salvific error in non-infallible magisterial teaching on faith and morals.
Who needs the Bible when you have church dogma and councils to dictate “truth”?
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Yes, that’s exactly right! Just as back in the day when the masses of peasants were completely illiterate, and therefore had to be taught the truths of the faith from those who were literate! Later, as the peasants gradually became literate they were able to get hold of copies of the Scriptures, some accurate and some not, and decide for themselves what they meant. Result: the equivalent of the Tower of Babel on a universal scale! Muhammad and other such prophets have been smiling ever since!
How dare you ignore the understanding of your "living magisterium" as explaining what past RC teaching really means, even if it appears to contradict past teaching. And which lack of submission to present leadership is contrary to many papal teachings from the past:
'the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors," "to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff," "of submitting with docility to their judgment," with "no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed... not only in person, but with letters and other public documents ;" and 'not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority, " for "obedience must not limit itself to matters which touch the faith: its sphere is much more vast: it extends to all matters which the episcopal power embraces," and not set up "some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them," "Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent." (Sources http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3578348/posts?page=14#14)
In making the veracity of modern RC teaching subject to your judgment as to what historical teaching meant then in essence you are acting like Bible evangelicals are to, except for them historical teaching is the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed, meaning Scripture. And which has resulted in the various TradCath schisms and sects which submission to your "living magisterium" seeks to avoid. Even though the NT church actually began in dissent from the historical magisterium.
Huh?
If the death penalty is wrong, why did Christ pay it for us?
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Excellent question! I’ve never maintained that it is wrong.
Even though the NT church actually began in dissent from the historical magisterium.
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Huh?
Forget Rome, I’m going to learn the truths of the Christian faith from the Bible exactly as it interpreted by you, or if not you, by me, or if not by me, by Martin Luther, or if not by Marty, by Calvin, or if not be Cal by the Holy Rollers down the street, or if not by them by the Snake Handlers up there on the mountain, or if not by them by old Beelzebub Herself!
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