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To: markman46

I think it’s fair to say that many great people were and are Freemasons (e.g., George Washington, Harry Truman, Mozart et al.). I don’t doubt that your forbears were good men. One of my own great uncles joined the Masons, and, though I never knew him, I’m under the impression that he was fine person. Many people join these groups for friendship and fellowship and networking, and there’s nothing sinister about that. But, with all that said, Masonic lodges, even at their most benign, are not Christian per se. They’re deist, and they promote not Christianity but the ideals of the French Revolution: liberty, equality and fraternity. And it has certainly been the case that Freemasons in countries like France, Spain and Mexico, have, during certain revolutionary periods, sought to displace Christianity with atheism.

And, let’s face it, there is within some branches of freemasonry, an interest in the occult and Satanism that is obviously antithetical to Christianity. Not to say that such things exist in all or even most Masonic lodges, but there have strains of that in places, cf. the writings of Albert Pike on Lucifer. At Freemasonry’s 200th anniversary parade in Rome in 1917, a banner in the parade read, “Satan will reign in the Vatican. The pope will be his slave.”


16 posted on 04/22/2023 8:37:38 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler
Freemasonry is NOT and has NEVER been a "RELIGIOUS" organization. Though yes, a requirement to believe in GOD ( one GOD, THE GOD ) is an absolute.

Likewise, the Shriners, the EASTERN STARS, Demoley, and Rainbow girls ( and NO, the rainbow was chosen centuries ago and isn't anything at all to do with homosexuals! ) are all likewise social and charity parts of Freemasonry.

You're lying about occultism, Satanism, and whatever else you might care to throw into the mix, is what Freemasonry is about.

Historically, were there people who joined the Masons and then went off to form their own weirdo organization? YES, INDEED, THAT'S FACTUAL; however, they were no longer MASONS! Yes, posters, here, have quoted Pike, in their virulent, specious condemnation of Freemasonry; but, that all used to be easily disputed by FR's very own, once large group of posters who were Masons.

And that old cannard, re that the Masons and the Jews caused/ran The French Revolution, written by an expat Catholic priest, then living in London, is a bald faced lie!

17 posted on 04/22/2023 9:01:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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