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To: Pelham

RE: Sounds like the classic “I’m the one taking the Bible seriously and therefore you aren’t” claim

Ok, forget the ad hominem attack for the meantime, how do you interpret the following verse from the Apostle Paul in light of the American Revolution :

ROMANS 13: 1-7

“ Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Keep in mind that the Roman Emperor at the time of St. Paul was Nero ( the man who burned Rome, fiddled as it happened, and used Christians as the scapegoat).


97 posted on 04/10/2023 12:53:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“how do you interpret the following verse from the Apostle Paul in light of the American Revolution”

That’s easy enough.

Parliament was acting in an outlaw manner and the Colonials were no longer obligated to regard them as the legitimate government.

Parliament was violating the Colonial’s rights as Englishmen as embedded in the 1689 Declaration of Rights, which Parliament was obligated to honor.

These included the right to representation in Parliament before taxes could be imposed. The right to be armed. The right not to have troops quartered in their homes. These weren’t inventions of the American Bill of Rights. They were rights already guaranteed to the Colonials as Englishmen. And the Royal government was violating them.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-the-english-bill-of-rights-makes-a-powerful-statement

https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/parliamentaryauthority/revolution/collections1/collections-glorious-revolution/billofrights/

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/17th_century/england.asp


98 posted on 04/10/2023 2:28:54 PM PDT by Pelham (Joe Biden, Brain of the American Left)
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