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To: DesertRhino

RE: It’s not in Jesus words red letters.

This statement assumes that Paul’s epistles were not inspired by Christ’s Holy Spirit and therefore did not meet Christ’s stamp of approval. I’m not sure I agree with this.

RE: And he was probably speaking about Rome or some local governor.

Not probably, DEFINITELY. St. Peter said the same thing as St. Paul and the former actually REFERRED to the Emperor ( in this case, Nero ) and local governors.

RE: if Paul thinks God put Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Or Kim Jong Un in power over people and they have a duty to obey them... then Paul is flat ass wrong.

Of course. But was genocide actually what Paul have in mind when he wrote these verses about submission to authority? IT MOST DEFINITELY ISN’T.


35 posted on 04/09/2023 10:16:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone calling the Revolution and Founders sinful is a dumbass. And besides, it would be a minor sin. One fully covered by being redeemed.

Not a biggie.


37 posted on 04/09/2023 10:18:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly. You have to read the words of those two with understanding of the world they lived in. They were -inspired- documents, NOT mormon golden plates, or the Koran that they think is exactly what god said, word for word.

Paul couldn’t imagine a Stalin and if he could, he would have never shrugged and said to do what they said. He woulda followed the words of Jesus and said sell your cloak and buy a sword had he known about them.

There is no biblical duty to obey a despotic leader.


43 posted on 04/09/2023 10:23:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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