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To: mdmathis6

Suit yourself. I could refute your argument, but I don’t sense that you are interested.


68 posted on 03/01/2023 7:23:36 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” Acts 2:47 -- It's still true!)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

You could only try to refute me using what you can only observe and measure in the here and now and then extrapolate from, not by what was going on when God acted from the times of old. But since you are not a time traveler and neither am I, we are going to have to trust that Christ will reveal all and we will all probably be amazed at how wrong we both were!

Nothing that you or I may agree on or disagree on concerning this matter refutes the need for the cross and our need for God’s salvation.

There is a school of Christian thought called old earth creationism/old universe and the other, a school of new earth/young universe creationism. Yet agreements or differences between the schools of thought are not of salvational importance; though some from both sides feel that the need to convey a rational sense of coherence between observed science and the bible is necessary so that the gospel can be taken seriously by a world presupposed to reject it.

Paul has a message for those who would reject the notion of a God created universe, not matter how old or young it is.Romans 1:19For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.…

Also Psalm 19:1The heavens declare the glory of God;

the skies proclaim the work of His hands.

2Day after day they pour forth speech;

night after night they reveal knowledge.

3Without speech or language,

without a sound to be heard,a

4their voice has gone out into all the earth,

their words to the ends of the world.

The rest of the Psalm goes into the glories of the laws and commandments of God being as light for darkened minds. I find the phrase “without speech or language, without a sound, their voice has gone out onto the world”(meaning the declarations of the heavens) very fascinating as it points directly at Romans 1:20. Thus Psalm 19 is the perfect antecedent piece for Romans 1:19 and 20.

You can state your refutation, I will read it...I might even come to agree with it or parts of it anyway...but you can’t prove it, until we stand where Jesus stands now, in our new incorruptible bodies in a place where time is always NOW!


69 posted on 03/01/2023 8:44:45 AM PST by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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