Posted on 02/12/2023 5:25:15 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Also, was not your cult’s founder a pre-tribber? Was she not a Millerite?
Did she not claim visions from God that revealed then-new information or then-secret info?
With the answers to those questions in mind, do you never feel the stupidity of your own accusations of others who tell the truth?
“And WHY would a biblical scholar, like Samuel Prideaux Tregelles, who was an eyewitness to Margaret McDonald’s utterances, call it Satanic BS?”
Please post the quote in which Tregelles called it, according to your own words, “Satanic BS.”
——>“Satanic BS.”
I was PARAPHRASING. But, here it is:
It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin.
——>Also, was not your cult’s founder a pre-tribber? Was she not a Millerite?
No, Miller and his followers were waiting for the ACTUAL second coming of Christ.
I’ll post more when I get a chance. Going to work now.
Bye.
“I was PARAPHRASING. But, here it is:
“It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin.”
Oh, I see. You made him say something that suits your agenda but that in truth the man never said.
What liberty you take with the words of the deceased.
“No, Miller and his followers were waiting for the ACTUAL second coming of Christ.”
In which case, they knew nothing about Scripture. Ellen carried that on to the founding of the SDA after the false date(s) didn’t quite pan out.
Error begetting more error.
Yup. The SDA was created to explain away the error of the Millerites.
Apparently their date was so secret that even Jesus didn’t know about it.
——>Oh, I see.
No, you don’t.
——>You made him say something that suits your agenda but that in truth the man never said.
Sorry, but I was spot on.
——>In which case, they knew nothing about Scripture.
Of course they did. They were studying the 2300 day/year prophecy of Daniel. They traced it down to the day, which was October 22, 1844. They thought it was the second coming of Christ. They were wrong.
Would you please tell how your church interprets that prophecy? If you don’t have the slightest clue, maybe you should do some studying.
——>I must be blind as a bat or either you’re lying again.
Claire, I’m over here...
Yeah, you’re blind as a bat.
BTW, are you not capable of doing your own research?
https://www.the-saltoftheearth.com/nicolaitans/
This is what it boils down to:
“The doctrine and works of the Nicolaitans came forth from a wrong interpretation of the GRACE OF GOD that was preached by the apostles. They misused the grace of God and the liberty in Christ to fulfill their carnal (sexual) lusts and desires.”
“The Nicolaitans believed and said that a person is saved by grace and therefore it doesn’t matter how you live. The Nicolaitans said that by faith in Jesus Christ, the spirit of a person is saved, but since you are bound by the flesh, in which evil is present, you will always remain a sinner and always keep sinning. You serve God through your spirit, but you keep serving your flesh and its lust and desires during your life on earth.”
“What the Nicolaitans were actually saying is, that you serve God through your spirit, but you serve the devil through your flesh (soul and body).”
“But Jesus says a person can’t be divided and can’t serve two masters of two kingdoms.”
“A person lives in the kingdom of God and serves God or a person lives in the kingdom of the devil and serves the devil (Matthew 4:10, 6:24, Luke 4:8, 16:13).”
“A person can say that he/she believes and is saved, but his or her speech and deeds prove whether the person is truly saved.”
Then, there’s this from both EGW and the SDA bible commentary:
“Doctrine of the Nicolaitans.– The doctrine is now largely taught that the gospel of Christ has made the law of God of no effect; that by ‘believing’ we are released from the necessity of being doers of the Word. But this is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which Christ so unsparingly condemned.” E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 7, 957, and Signs of the Times, Jan 2. 1912.
“The doctrine of the Nicolaitans appears to have been a form of antinomianism (see SDACom 7:957).Nicolaitans of the 2d cent. seem to have continued and extended the views of the 1st-cent. adherents, holding to the freedom of the flesh, and teaching that the deeds of the flesh had no effect upon the health of the soul and consequently no relation to salvation.” SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 8, p. 771.
Definition of antinomian: a believer in the doctrine that faith alone, not obedience to the moral law, is necessary for salvation.” Websters New World Dictionary.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Nicolaitans.html
Other commentators believe that these Nicolaitans were not so called from any man, but from the Greek word Nicolah, meaning “let us eat,” as they often encouraged each other to eat things offered to idols. Whichever theory is true, it is certain that the deeds of the Nicolaitans were an abomination to Christ. They, like the Gnostics and other false teachers, abused the doctrine of grace and tried to introduce licentiousness in its place (2 Peter 2:15, 19; Jude 1:4).
Just in case you missed it:
Jude 4: For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
BTTT
Behold the Anthropooficus Arrogantitus Backyardus Cultititist in all his error.
Phil, you’ve posted the same old tired “line of reasoning” that hasn’t been well thought out by you. You can skip it. We’ve all seen it before many, many, many times over. I know you cannot allow light to shine on you without running into the corner and screaming, “Noooooo!” and slamming your fists against the wall. However, that doesn’t put a dent in the good and true just because you and the SDA cult can’t deal with it.
Your cult was founded on outright lies and errors, the which you have to continue your whole life to overlook. You were born into it and that’s what you’ve allowed yourself to be hardened into from all the years you’ve permitted bitter to be called sweet, and darkness to be called light.
When the SDA says that Jesus had to enter “Investigative Judgment,” when their Return date didn’t have Him to return on said date, it’s saying that Christ Jesus was not and is not all-knowing. I’d shut my mouth if I believed such because you’re saying He is not God. That He has to go and learn something He doesn’t know already.
Learn this: Christ Jesus learns nothing; He is all-knowing. He is God. Whatever you’re serving with your heart, soul and mind, it’s not THE God of the Bible. He’s not reading some books to learn about you now. That’s just stupidity at its finest to believe that.
It gets worse with you and your spiritual kin: Angels have gold card passes for traveling around, etc., etc. & etc. I would say it’s stuff that can’t be made up, but that’s not the case. Some poor soul conjured it up, just like the rest is conjured up.
Go on now. Continue your lying and misleading for the SDA. Show the world what they’re really about, but know that God would have you come to HIM for salvation. There’s no other way, Phil. The SDA can’t give it to you. No church can ever grant salvation no matter how many lies they tell or how many laws they stack up … against themselves for judgment. Losing game that not one will win.
As I posted earlier, Phil, regarding the SDA: error begetting more error. (Heaping it on, in this case.)
BTTT !
Wow, me proving Ken Johnson is a LIAR really set you off, didn’t it?
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