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To: ebb tide

I’ll have to read this later in it’s entirety. However, is he saying that the Mass today isn’t valid? I hope that’s not what he’s saying.


23 posted on 01/25/2023 4:21:52 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

Within the letter he says that the priest who says the Novus Ordo mass does confect the Eucharist.

Nevertheless Viganó is saying that no time should be wasted in suppressing all forms of the Novus Ordo mass.


25 posted on 01/26/2023 6:09:31 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Ge0ffrey

Within the letter he says that the priest who says the Novus Ordo mass does confect the Eucharist.

Nevertheless Viganó is saying that no time should be wasted in suppressing all forms of the Novus Ordo mass.

The money paragraph:

“And it is very true, beyond any possible refutation, that there is no possibility of reconciliation between two heterogeneous, indeed opposed, ecclesiological visions. Either one survives and the other succumbs, or one succumbs and the other survives. The chimera of a coexistence between Vetus and Novus Ordo is impossible, artificial, and deceitful: because what the celebrant does perfectly in the Apostolic Mass leads him naturally and infallibly to do what the Church wants; while what the president of the assembly does in the Reformed Mass is almost always affected by the variations authorized by the rite itself, even if in it the Holy Sacrifice is validly realized. And it is precisely in this that the conciliar matrix of the new Mass consists: its fluidity, its ability to adapt to the needs of the most disparate “assemblies,” to be celebrated both by a priest who believes in transubstantiation and manifests it with the prescribed genuflections and by one who believes only in transignification and gives Communion to the faithful in their hands.”


26 posted on 01/26/2023 6:13:46 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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