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Patriarch Kirill: “Any Desire to Destroy Russia Will Mean the End of the World”
Pravoslavie ^ | 1/20/23

Posted on 01/20/2023 6:49:51 PM PST by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow
It's normal people seek to protect their peoples and way of life.

It's abnormal for people to give it all away.

81 posted on 01/21/2023 5:17:16 AM PST by riri (There can be no unity with the wicked, their servants, or their slaves.-Vox Day)
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To: jacknhoo

“War isn’t about Ukraine.”

Talk about total delusion, or deliberate falsehood.


82 posted on 01/21/2023 5:17:44 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Bob434

>>>Exactly- the patriarch seems not to know the bible very well- We have at the very least 1007 more years, likely many more years- but definitely that many left->>>

Well, we agree about the Patriarch and disagree about how much time is left. I’d say less then 5 years. The gospel is reaching the entire world and the man of sin is being revealed. And that system sits in Rome. 5 years or less and we are finally going home! :)


83 posted on 01/21/2023 5:33:50 AM PST by vespa300
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To: Williams

I’m sure it seems that way, to you - not surprised.


84 posted on 01/21/2023 5:39:41 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Yeah delusional people like you are smug.

You’re so afraid of a queer you will support all the other sins of Satan - rape, murder, thievery, destruction, slavery,

Just because the killer tells you he did it to avoid being “homo’d”

How thoroughly immoral and disgusting.


85 posted on 01/21/2023 5:52:03 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Bless your heart.


86 posted on 01/21/2023 6:33:01 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: vespa300

This world will have many billions during the millennium, the 1000 year reign of christ. Also, there has to be a 7 year “peace treaty” with Israel which the antichrist will break ad year 3 1/2. The wo4ld isn’t going g to be destroyed or the people wiped out until, after these things happen, so at minimum, we have 1007 more years left.

There may be regional populations that get devastated by wars, but the majority of people will still be alive for many more years to come (the Bible talks about plagues and such which wipe out large portion of folks during the tribulation, but there will still be a large number of people left after the tribulation, and during the millennial reign of christ


87 posted on 01/21/2023 7:04:01 AM PST by Bob434
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To: BobL

Just read any of Putin’s comments about Ukraine, including his recent New Year’s address where we talked about restoring “full sovereignty” over “historical Russia.”


88 posted on 01/21/2023 7:39:08 AM PST by Salohcin
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To: linMcHlp

Your kindness is a stand out here. Thank you so much.

Here is what I know. Russia will nuke us and take out as much as they can if we continue to increase technology in our weapons to Ukraine. They began this war because they felt threatened, and rightly so, and once they reach that level of threat again, I expect they will “throw their hand” as Michael Stipe puts it.

Biden is a complete idiot and probably so are his advisors.
The US under this admin is on a power bid to avoid losing superpower status to Russia or China.
Biden and company think Putin is bluffing - but on Russian boards, which I frequent, the commentary is clear. They don’t want to live in a world without Russia. They are ok with heading to God if that is the outcome.

Not one single person is attempting and succeeding at talks to end this war, and very few are trying. There appears to be very little chance that negotiations will stop the war.

We are in a fourth turning about which was written :

“History is seasonal, and winter is coming.
The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort—in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.”

Even if we were fortunate enough to survive that long,
the evil running this world will probably not allow us to elect Trump again. And if they did, he may not be strong enough ‘under’ them to stop this war of madness.

Zelensky is a cocaine addict and has said many times he wants Russia to cease to exist.

So. You are correct. Sometimes God steps in and stops it all.
There is that one hopeful thing.

Thanks again for your sweet and lovely post.


89 posted on 01/21/2023 7:44:59 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: Salohcin

“Just read any of Putin’s comments about Ukraine, including his recent New Year’s address where we talked about restoring “full sovereignty” over “historical Russia.””

What does that have to do with “destroying Ukraine”. Seems to me that the only people who want to “destroy Ukraine” are the Neocons, perfectly content with sending Ukrainians into the Russian ‘meat grinder’.


90 posted on 01/21/2023 7:45:38 AM PST by BobL
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To: MarMema

Every weapon known to man will be used, it’s in man’s nature. Nukes are no different, and have already been used.

That doesn’t mean the next time nukes are used, it will be clear as to who is actually behind it.

Think of how the Nordstream pipeline just blew up one day.


91 posted on 01/21/2023 7:50:13 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: Salohcin
restoring “full sovereignty” over “historical Russia.”

Where is your link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13ojQrUdsCI This one has him saying "full sovereignty"

Next link here -
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/12/31/putin-visits-russian-troops-claims-moral-rightness-in-new-year-address-a79859

"Today we are fighting for this, protecting our people in our own historical territories, in the new constituent entities of the Russian Federation," he added, referring to Ukrainian regions that Russia claims to have annexed. "

https://mandynews.com/english-transcript-of-putin-new-year-speech-2023/

" It was a year of challenging but necessary choices, significant steps toward Russia achieving complete sovereignty, and a strong social consolidation."

Definition of sovereignty, Cambridge
"having the highest power or being completely independent"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/sovereign

Here are the deifnitions for the Russian word they have translated to "sovereign"
-- discretionary, footloose, free, independent, substantive, irrespective, termless, selfcontained, selfdetermined

You are a bidenista and the US state media is feeding you well. Hope this clears up your need to post things differently than they were intended.

92 posted on 01/21/2023 8:06:04 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: BobL

Meant to ping you to my post above...


93 posted on 01/21/2023 8:10:02 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: BobL; Salohcin

Salohcin labors under the illusion that Russia intends to conquer all of Ukraine, as many here do.

Some even believe that Russia wishes to retake the USSR territories.

I have posted recently that Putin/Russia in no way desire to attempt to run western Ukraine, although it would be amusing to force them to use only Russian as a language.
At any rate, those are historically Polish lands and Poland has quite a few who talk about retaking them for Poland.
The hatred of Putin and Russians has overaken some so completely that they have no desire to look up a map and
find the truth. They rush, instead, to knee jerk posts and assume they are knowledgeable. LOL.


94 posted on 01/21/2023 8:21:10 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: MarMema

Agree...they sound ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS as to what Russia is looking for.


95 posted on 01/21/2023 8:26:45 AM PST by BobL
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To: Golden Eagle

I believe it will be Russia.

The US state media love to boast and talk about nukes.

Russia will simply act when they feel their back is so cornered that it is the end for their country.

I once attended a state dinner at the Russian embassy in
DC. I will never forget it. Black tie.
My ten yr old adopted son spoke.
The food and music were beyond amazing.

I am watching to see them close. That will be the only warning we will receive.


96 posted on 01/21/2023 8:48:02 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: MarMema

So Putin only wants Ukraine up to the pre-1939 Soviet-Polish border? Or just 80% of Ukraine? How very generous of him.🙄

Btw, the loudest voices calling for a partition are coming from Moscow. If Poland wanted to partition Ukraine it would have already opened negotiations with Russia instead of providing Ukraine with the strong support that it has given.


97 posted on 01/21/2023 8:48:44 AM PST by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

Actually it was the ethnic Russians who overwhelmingly voted to be part of Russia after asking them to come for 8 yrs.

They wrote a formal letter which Putin filed with the UN.

Most had already declared themselves as separatists in 2014.
So you might think of them as Ukraine, but they certainly did not claim to be part of Ukraine.

Ukrainians really persecute those who are not full blood Ukrainian. The roma and hungarians are not treated well.
But the nazis hate ethnic Russians the most so they were the ones they shelled and killed. Ukraine is still shelling donbass
and killing people.
The people’s republics in Donbass asked Russia for help.

“In this context, in accordance with Article 51 (Chapter VII) of the UN Charter, with permission of Russia’s Federation Council, and in execution of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance with the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Lugansk People’s Republic, ratified by the Federal Assembly on February 22, I made a decision to carry out a special military operation.

The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kiev regime. To this end, we will seek to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.”

https://theprint.in/world/full-text-of-vladimir-putins-speech-announcing-special-military-operation-in-ukraine/845714/

If it were to conclude, Russia will leave western Ukraine.
They are there to locate criminals and cut power when necessary. Only Poland would be stupid and greedy enough to want to run western Ukraine. LOL.
Banderites. Galicians. Russia doesn’t want them.

And it is not even close to 80 percent. Miss Hyperbole Queen.


98 posted on 01/21/2023 9:27:46 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: MarMema

If they ever felt they had nothing to lose, then to strike first would be their best chance to “win” although no one wins a nuclear war between superpowers.

That’s why I think the next large scale nuclear blast will be more of a covert operation somewhere. And hard to pin on who it was, or how it happened.


99 posted on 01/21/2023 9:29:35 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: MarMema

I think you may have misunderstood me. I was saying that if you were correct that Putin wants to leave western Ukraine to Poland, that would mean the Russia would get 80% of Ukraine (not Poland), leaving only the western 20% to Poland, i.e the border would be drawn at the pre-1939 Soviet-Polish border.

To clear up any further misperception, exactly were do you believe Putin wants to draw the partition line with Poland? If its not the pre-1939 border, where?

As for your contention that the ethnic Russians voted overwhelming to be a part of Russia, even if that were true it would still be a minority in Luhansk and Donetsk because ethnic Russians are a MINORITY in both oblasts (only about 38%).

As for the shelling in 2014-2022, there was shelling by BOTH sides. Furthermore, the current shelling of Ukrainian cities by Russia is an order of magnitude worse than anything that the Ukrainians were accused of doing in the past 8 years.

As for the “formal letter”, the LNR and DNR are not independent actors, so the letter was at least cleared, if not outright drafted, in Moscow before it was sent.


100 posted on 01/21/2023 10:29:51 AM PST by Salohcin
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