Could you ever prove a miracle to a non-believer?

Hotair via New York Times ^ | 12/25/2022

[alexander_busek]

So, don’t jut accept a miracle when you see it. KNOW THE SOURCE.

But how?

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

Miracles happen all the time. However, after a short time, most people forget about them. Only a few people that are aware of this forgetfulness can remember them, and only then if they have made some effort to remember. Making this worse is that miracles tend to be “one-shots” in a given place and time, and with only certain people.

You seem to know quite a lot about the subject!

Are your statements based (only) upon your own philosophical musings, or your actual experiences, or anecdotes that you have occasionally heard, or are you drawing from a published learned treatise on the subject?

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

The book of Genesis provides the only eminently reasonable explanation: “In the beginning God created...”

Not true! Practically every religion has its own holy scriptures or at least oral traditions and its own "creation myth."

Which of the thousands have you chosen to believe?

Regards,

[Lazamataz]

Not true! Practically every religion has its own holy scriptures or at least oral traditions and its own "creation myth." Which of the thousands have you chosen to believe?

Mine.

Mine is the only RIGHT one.

[alexander_busek]

Mine is the only RIGHT one.

And, coincidentally, it just happens to be the same religion dominating the culture in which you grew up?

Regards,

[jy8z]

Ditzy daughter. Wow. What a supposition. Someone just converted to Christ and you make fun of it. Please remember one day you will stand before God and be judged.

[alexander_busek]

Ditzy daughter. Wow. What a supposition. Someone just converted to Christ and you make fun of it. Please remember one day you will stand before God and be judged.

Cool down! It was only a supposition! One of several plausible explanations that could be reasonably advanced without resorting to divine intervention!

Your own statement that your daughter had previously believed in "multiple gods" (a "ditzy" belief if there ever was one!) suggests that she is member of the "Bizarre Belief of the Month Club."

Next month, she'll probably be putting her faith in crystals, or astrology, or reincarnation, or some other nonsense.

I would hardly call someone who "flips" on a dime from believing in a whole pantheon of gods to just one "stable."

Regards,

[jy8z]

I wasn't the original poster of that statement. I butted in to tell you what I think of your post. Please pay attention and follow the thread. Sheesh!

Are you drinking tonight?

[alexander_busek]

I wasn't the original poster of that statement. I butted in to tell you what I think of your post. Please pay attention and follow the thread. Sheesh!

Okay! Then I revise my sentence as follows:

Your own That other poster's statement that your that other poster's daughter had previously believed in "multiple gods" (a "ditzy" belief if there ever was one!) suggests that she is member of the "Bizarre Belief of the Month Club."

Thanks for pointing that out!

Are you drinking tonight?

What do you think?! It's Christmas! Never heard of egg-nog?! Sheesh!

Regards,

[jy8z]

What do you think?! It's Christmas! Never heard of egg-nog?

Another wrong statement. It's after 11:00 am 12/26/2022 in Germany. The day after Christmas. Put the eggnog down and go to bed.

[21twelve]

True, OTOH, Jesus did perform miracles that a bunch of people recognized as miracles at the time. Healing the paralyzed guy that had spent his entire life at the temple begging, etc.

Of course they may have believed the miracle, but did not believe in Jesus’ claims or follow him. IIRC after the feeding of the 5,000 many walked away afterwards.

[4Liberty]

The “Complexity” argument for intelligent design never made sense to me. We can only observe one reality. It could be “complex” or it could be “simple,” we can’t know since we have nothing to compare it to.

IOW, asserting something is “complex” begs the question, “Compared to what?”

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Beer nog is better;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1RN3cYnY9k

[Lazamataz]

:Mine is the only RIGHT one."

And, coincidentally, it just happens to be the same religion dominating the culture in which you grew up?

YOU LIE!

My faith is Pastafarian.

"The central creation myth is that an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe "after drinking heavily." According to these beliefs, the Monster's intoxication was the cause for a flawed Earth. Furthermore, according to Pastafarianism, all evidence for evolution was planted by the Flying Spaghetti Monster in an effort to test the faith of Pastafarians." Regards,

[alexander_busek]

What do you think?! It's Christmas! Never heard of egg-nog?

Another wrong statement. It's after 11:00 am 12/26/2022 in Germany.

In my household, the Christmas Spirit prevails the whole holiday season!

(hic!)

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

IOW, asserting something is “complex” begs the question, “Compared to what?”

Compared to the countless universes in which life never arose!

(The Anthropic Principle)

Thus, I agree with you!

Regards,

[daniel1212]

Dawkins [basically] Admits Nothing Can Persuade Him God Exists

Yet atheism is itself is a position that requires much faith. Meaning that an exceedingly vast, well-ordered, systematic universe, finely tuned for extensive earthly life with its exquisite diversity and astounding complexity, came to be by purely natural powers, without a supreme intelligence behind it. Which indeed requires much faith.

And "proof" depends upon the definition of the term. “Proof” can mean having sufficient warrant for a verdict, and much can be offered for the existence of at least a supreme intelligence, a creator and designer[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] - which logically would infer omnipotence and omnipotence - as well as substantive testimony for the God of the Bible being that Creator, including working in the lives of believers today. [14]

Footnotes

[1]

https://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/designun.html

[2]

Design from Fine-Tuning | Reasonable Faith

[3]

'God: new evidence' - the fine tuning of the universe - part 1

[4]

When science and philosophy collide in a 'fine-tuned' universe

[5]

We Live in a Very Fortunate Universe

[6]

10 Fun Facts about DNA | DNACenter.com - DDC

[7]

https://spaceupper.com/god-dna-proves-presence-of-god-says-scientists/

[8]

Evolutionary surprise: Eight percent of human genetic material comes from a virus

[9]

The Universe as We Understand It May Be Impossible

[10]

Dawkins Admits Nothing Can Persuade Him God Exists

[11]

Is There Any Evidence for Jesus Outside the Bible?

[12]

Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources

[13]

Extra-Biblical Historical Evidence for Christianity

[14]

Amazing Stories, Christian Testimonies, Healing Miracles and Inspirational Stories

[Lazamataz]

Compared to the countless universes in which life never arose!

You are assuming facts not in evidence.

Show me one of these universes, or you simply made it up.

[daniel1212]

Replace footnote [1] (presently a 404) with The Privileged Planet

[daniel1212]

The “Complexity” argument for intelligent design never made sense to me. We can only observe one reality. It could be “complex” or it could be “simple,” we can’t know since we have nothing to compare it to. IOW, asserting something is “complex” begs the question, “Compared to what?”

Compared to what mere chance examples. Meanwhile, to deny that an exceedingly vast, well-ordered, systematic universe, finely tuned for extensive earthly life with its exquisite diversity and astounding complexity, came to be by purely natural powers, without a supreme intelligence behind it, itself requires much faith. As said above.