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Posted on 12/13/2022 7:38:07 AM PST by ebb tide
Julio Loredo has again warned against “beatifying” Olinda and Recife Archbishop Hélder Pessoa Câmara (+1999).
• 1931: At his ordination, Câmara wears the uniform of the notorious Green Shirt militia under his cassock.
• 1934: Câmara is a member of the Supreme Council of Plinio Salgado's Ação Integralista Brasileira (AIB), a pro-national socialist group.
• 1936: Câmara becomes Salgado's personal secretary and then national secretary of the AIB. He takes a leading role in rallies and paramilitary marches similar to the German Nazi marches.
• 1946: Rio de Janeiro Archbishop wants to make Câmara an auxiliary bishop, but the Vatican refuses because of his Nazi past.
• 1947: Câmara becomes general assistant of the Brazilian Catholic Action and begins to moult from Nazi to Marxist.
• Under Câmara, Catholic Action degenerates into a Communist organisation and some members whom Câmara never condemned, become guerrillas.
• 1952: Câmara is appointed auxiliary bishop.
• 1968: Câmara calls Paul VI’s Humanae Vitae, "an error destined to torture brides and disturb the peace of so many hearts."
• As Archbishop of Olinda-Recife, Câmara calls women "victims" because the Church forces them to beget "little monsters" (sic!): "Children, children, children! If you want coitus, you have to procreate! Even if your child is born without guts, with stiff legs, a balloon head and butt-ugly!"
• Câmara promotes divorce and advocates the immoral Orthodox position that "allows" another religious marriage for those who have been abandoned by their spouses.
• During the Second Vatican Council, "Tell me, please, if there is indeed a decisive argument that prevents women from holding the priesthood, or is it just a male prejudice?"
• About the Vatican II documents, "We must go beyond the conciliar texts whose interpretation is left to us".
• 1965: Câmara tells the Council Fathers: "I believe that man will artificially create life, will be able to bring the dead to life and will put into practice the old dream of [Serge] Voronoff [famous for his claim of achieving miraculous rejuvenation results in male patients by transplanting monkey genital glands]."
• 1968: Father Joseph Comblin (professor in Receife seminary, +2011) writes for Câmara a proposal to dismantle the State, establish a “popular [Communist] dictatorship,” ban the private use of capital, abolish Church hierarchy, institute an ecclesiastical politburo, distribute the army’s weapons to “the people,” introduce censorship and “extraordinary people's courts," and use violence.
• The “agrarian reform” whose main promoter was Câmara proved to be "the worst fiasco of public policy in our country" (Francisco Graziano Neto).
• Most of the agricultural cooperatives created by the "reform" turned into rural favelas, with great suffering for the peasants, making Câmara the "saint who created favelas".
Ping
Good thing canonization are not infallible!
As long as he repented of his nazi past and trusted in Jesus Christ as lord and savior, he’s in heaven.
Hasn’t Soros been declared a Leftist saint, even though he collaborated with the Nazis and contributed to the murder of many Jews?
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Canonizations are infallible (according to most theologians), but beatifications aren’t. Though I don’t know of any examples of a beatification being revoked. (Are there any?)
That’s funny.
I assume you’re having some fun with the arcane rules.
The Ten Commandments are “arcane rules”, so I guess they don’t apply to you, right?
The Ten Commandments are in the Bible. Canonization is not.
Saints are in the Bible.
Oh, dear. I was told canonization were not infallible by an unreliable source, so I looked it up, and that (imo) reliable source said they weren’t. Unfortunately, I looked that up well over 20 years ago and do not remember what the reliable source was.
So now I am again unsure...
Really?
To a fly, an elephant is just some hair.
He doesn’t “get it.” It’s way too much for the little creature to see.
The question of canonization’s infallibility has been debated with greater or lesser intensity for over 800 years. Nevertheless, it is events of recent years—the massive overhaul of the processes of beatification and canonization in 1983 and the subsequent tsunami of beati and sancti, among them some highly controversial figures—that have increased the sense of urgency in this conversation. Today, at a staggering rate, high volumes of saints are raised to the altars in what a modern journalist called the “saint factory.” Father John Hunwicke notes that Pope Francis has even joked, in rather poor taste, that “Benedict and I are on the waiting list [to be canonized].”
Long day of drinking again?
More personal attacks?
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Rent-free.
Try to get some sleep.
Paul VI's address to the U.N.; October 4, 1965.
Are you thread-hopping again?
We’re only on Comment #19. Where did you come up with #43 and #45?
When was the last time you saw a hairy elephant? You can't be that old?
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