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Is America at the End of the Road?
Jonathan Brentner ^ | 11/15/22 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: MHGinTN

——>Has GOD put an end to the Sin of unbelief in Israel?

God gave literal Israel 490 concurrent years to make an end of their sins and repent (initially punished by God, taken captive by Babylon). The stoning of Stephen was the last straw. They failed. They are done as God’s chosen people. “your house is left to desolate”. And of course Christ dying on the Cross in the middle of the last week meant that Christ gained victory over sin for the world (meaning Salvation was possible)

(C) “and to make an end of sins,”

- Meaning to the Jews: repent from sin.
- Alludes to the victory of Jesus Christ over sin at the cross.

http://www.biblelightinfo.com/dan927.htm

Dan 9:24

This verse sets the goals of the 70 week prophecy of Daniel.

(A) “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,”

- This sets the time period at 70 weeks. It is generally accepted here that you must use the day = year prophecy formula (Num 14:34, Ezek 4:6), yielding a time period of 490 years from start to completion.

- The word determined here actually means “cut off”. This 70 weeks are cut off from, or begin at the same time as, the larger 2300 day (year) prophecy of Dan 8:14, which has as it’s focus the cleansing of the sanctuary in heaven, the beginning of Judgment. So both the 70 week (490 year) and the 2300 day (year) prophecy begin at the same date. Note that you can not arbitrarily apply the year for a day principle in one case and not another, you must remain consistent. Dan 8:26 strongly hints that the 2300 day prophecy in verse 14 is not just 2300 days, but many days more than it literally indicates. This would also support using year instead of day.

(B) “to finish the transgression (rebellion),”

- Meaning to the Jews: end your transgression of (rebellion against) God’s Law and return to obedience.
- Alludes to the victory of Jesus Christ over transgression at the cross.

(C) “and to make an end of sins,”

- Meaning to the Jews: repent from sin.
- Alludes to the victory of Jesus Christ over sin at the cross.

(D) “and to make reconciliation for iniquity,”

- Meaning to the Jews: Atonement for sins through sacrificial temple ceremonies (symbolic of Jesus).
- Alludes to the reconciliation for iniquity by Jesus Christ at the cross.

(E) “and to bring in everlasting righteousness,”

- Alludes to the death of Jesus the Messiah at the cross making everlasting righteousness available to all with faith. Without His death at the cross we are all condemned to the second death. By His death on the cross, the requirement of the Law was met and His everlasting righteousness established. Psa 119:142

(F) “and to seal up the vision and prophecy,”

- To fulfill / complete the prophesies of the 70 weeks (the dates of Messiah’s / Jesus’ baptism and crucifixion). Because Daniel predicted these historical events of the 70 weeks with absolute accuracy, we can also trust that the 2300 day (year) prophecy is just as accurate.

(G) “and to anoint the most Holy.”

- As the earthly temple was anointed in Lev 8:10-11, so the heavenly temple was anointed by Jesus as he assumed the role of our High Priest, on his return to heaven. Also, Jesus himself was anointed as the Messiah at His Baptism (Mat 3:16, Mark 1:9, Luke 3:21).

So verse 24 has set the goals of the 70 week prophecy of Daniel. The twofold focus of the prophecy: first on the Jews reconciling themselves with God within the appointed time (490 years), and second, Jesus being baptized and paying the price of sin at the cross for us and becoming our High Priest. Note that there is nothing in verse 24 referring to the millennial kingdom, or the antichrist, or a seven year tribulation and there is nothing to indicate the 490 years are anything but a continuous period of time that ended in 34 A.D.


261 posted on 12/06/2022 6:34:09 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

——>I didn’t know that question would be so hard for you.

I didn’t know that you can’t frame a concise statement describing your point.

LITERAL OR SPIRITUAL ISRAEL?

CONDITIONAL PROMISE?

Are you not capable of listing some of the “boatload” of future prophecies for Israel?


262 posted on 12/06/2022 6:40:28 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

——>Until then the 490 years have not ended.

Do you not get it? There is no more LITERAL Israel.

Here’s another concept you seem to be unable to grasp...The 490 years is concurrent, including the last 7 years.

- The word determined here actually means “cut off”. This 70 weeks are cut off from, or begin at the same time as, the larger 2300 day (year) prophecy of Dan 8:14, which has as it’s focus the cleansing of the sanctuary in heaven, the beginning of Judgment. So both the 70 week (490 year) and the 2300 day (year) prophecy begin at the same date. Note that you can not arbitrarily apply the year for a day principle in one case and not another, you must remain consistent. Dan 8:26 strongly hints that the 2300 day prophecy in verse 14 is not just 2300 days, but many days more than it literally indicates. This would also support using year instead of day.

http://www.biblelightinfo.com/dan927.htm


263 posted on 12/06/2022 6:46:37 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

You could’ve just said that Jesus doesn’t lie.


264 posted on 12/06/2022 6:49:22 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: SouthernClaire

Of course He doesn’t lie. The question is, do you have even the slightest idea what the “prophets” are talking about? (Prophets includes Christ by the way). Evidently, you have no idea.


265 posted on 12/06/2022 6:57:15 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

I absolutely am not interested in an interpretation from someone who believes their “prophetess” went to Jupiter or whatever planet and met some sinless, tall folks; forbade her followers certain foods in which she indulged; and had her parishioners on all fours, barking like dogs, amongst many other things like the soaking barrel and head wrap.

Sorry. Just doesn’t do much for me, Phil. Maybe on another day. LOL.


266 posted on 12/06/2022 7:01:44 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: SouthernClaire; MHGinTN

MHG thinks the last week of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy gets chopped off and transported thousands of years into the future on a magic carpet (my verbiage), when the bible clearly says that it is cut off (”determined”) from the 2300 day/year prophecy timeline. The years are clearly concurrent. No doubt about it. You false PTR doctrine guys are mixed up.


267 posted on 12/06/2022 7:01:48 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

Thank goodness. Now you’ll stop wasting my time.


268 posted on 12/06/2022 7:03:33 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

“You false PTR doctrine guys are mixed up.”

Ha, ha. That’s funny coming from you. (See my previous post.)


269 posted on 12/06/2022 7:03:46 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: Philsworld
Typical satanic bilgespittle. You're are incapable of comprehending the suspension from the count and your lying cult apologist assert -falsely- that the death of Stephen figures into the end of the 490 weeks.

You are working for the father of lies as you deny that the Tribulation is the seventieth week. The Revelation of John explains it all to us but your cult twisted mind is incapable of understanding what God revealed through John.

I repeat, you, badgering, taunting, spittling cultist, do not have the Truth in you so you are incapable of recognizing truth. Putting an end to the sin of unbelief in Israel is a concept your warped cult mind cannot grasp. The truth is spiritually discerned, and your spirit is as dead as a door nail, still drowned in your trespasses and sins, so you are not capable of discerning The Truth, only able to spittle forth the falsehoods of your SDA cult and its apologist who twist scripture to feed the lies.

You were exposed over the mark of the beast, yet you didn't even realize how stupid your response was when I posted 'the number of his name' as refuting your lengthy cult ravings. You do not know the mark as God has not yet revealed it. But that doesn't stop you from making a fool of yourself, EG White sycophant.

One last warning, cultist: don't take the mark when it is commanded to you, should you actually survive the catastrophic chaos that will follow the great departure of the Body of Christ Believers who will be swept outta here to keep us from even the hour of the testing/tribulation ACCORDING to the Promise of Jesus n chapter three of the Revelation.

Your continued defense of satanic lies is disgusting at FR.

270 posted on 12/06/2022 7:07:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SouthernClaire

Like I said before...we’ll find out soon enough. I wouldn’t want to be in the shoes of the lawless false PTR, OSAS/OJAJ crowd.


271 posted on 12/06/2022 7:07:59 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

——>You’re are incapable of comprehending the suspension from the count and your lying cult apologist assert -falsely- that the death of Stephen figures into the end of the 490 weeks.

Christ died in the middle of the 70th week. 3.5 years later, Stephen was Stoned. Literal’s last chance. THAT is when the Gospel went to the Gentiles. Literal Israel is finished and God’s chosen people. Done. Now we deal with the Remnant of Abraham’s seed.


272 posted on 12/06/2022 7:13:43 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

“... you are not capable of discerning The Truth”

That’s it in a nutshell. No Holy Spirit light to guide him in the Word of God because he CHOOSES a cult over Christ Jesus.

Sad to see.


273 posted on 12/06/2022 7:13:55 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: MHGinTN

——>One last warning, cultist: don’t take the mark when it is commanded to you...

Still waiting for YOU to tell me what it is. Andy and Ken don’t know? No one on Prophecy Watchers knows?


274 posted on 12/06/2022 7:15:59 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
Christians don't need to know. We are leaving before the Tribulation seventieth week of Daniel starts.

BTW, EG White sycophant, you can mail a letter from my house to LITERAL israel AND the Revelation of John reveals there will be temple sacrifices during the Millennial reign of Christ, which follows the seventieth week of Daniel. Bwahahaha, haven't read it have you, cultist!

275 posted on 12/06/2022 7:21:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

You have posted this “ignant” question so many times it’s embarrassing for every member of FR who ever was, now is, or ever will be.

How are people supposed to know when it’s not arrived yet?


276 posted on 12/06/2022 7:22:22 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Job: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God)
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To: MHGinTN

——>You do not know the mark as God has not yet revealed it.

Of course he has. Revelation 14 says it is about...

WORSHIP

GOD’S COMMANDMENTS

SPECIFICALLY THE 4TH COMMANDMENT.

You have to know who the Antichrist/Beast is. The Reformers all figured it out from the bible. Actually very simple.

What is the MARK OF AUTHORITY of the Catholic church? It is that they thought to change Times and Laws, and specifically God’s Holy 7th-day-Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. They admit it. It’s documented. Refuse to believe it all you want. You are still responsible for the information. Good luck.


277 posted on 12/06/2022 7:22:24 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

Probably one of the harshest warnings in the entire bible and God wouldn’t give us a clue as to what it is? Now that’s “ignant”.


278 posted on 12/06/2022 7:25:16 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

‘the number of his name’ ... LOL you are caught in a falseworld loop, cultist.


279 posted on 12/06/2022 7:26:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

I’m pretty sure He gave us a clue, Phil.

It’s known as “666.”


280 posted on 12/06/2022 7:27:05 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Job: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God)
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