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Is America at the End of the Road?
Jonathan Brentner ^ | 11/15/22 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: metmom

Amen Sister. Quite conclusive and without debate!

Many who claim to keep the law, stumble at the words shared by the Apostle unto the GENTILES.

Philippians 3
King James Version

3 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.

2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.


101 posted on 12/05/2022 1:34:57 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Bump for later


102 posted on 12/05/2022 1:36:45 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: SouthernClaire; metmom

Wow, looks like we’ve quickly come full circle once again, right Claire?

Rev 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

REMNANT

KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD

HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST

Soon, false OSAS/OJAJ will have to admit the truth

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Denying the very law that Christ wrote with his own finger, is denying Him.

No?

Yes!

Matthew 7:
21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, you workers of LAWLESSNESS!’…


103 posted on 12/05/2022 1:45:28 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Clearly you are unable to have faith in Jesus ONLY because you are too enamored with faith in yourself. Your faith in YOU makes it impossible to have the righteousness of Christ imputed to you because you do not BELIEVE Jesus lived and kept the law FOR YOU AND ME. Your loss, cultist ... and the end thereof is horrible to contemplate.


104 posted on 12/05/2022 1:49:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

You are blinded and cursed.


105 posted on 12/05/2022 1:51:43 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: SouthernClaire; Philsworld

Allow me to amend my statement before you call the po-po on me again:

You are blinded and cursed, according the Word of God.


106 posted on 12/05/2022 1:53:33 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: patriot torch

“Many who claim to keep the law, stumble at the words shared by the Apostle unto the GENTILES.”

“Stumble?” LOL Some people stub their big toe, then the next one, stumble with outstretched arms for balance, and still fall face-first onto the stones.

Were it not so serious a matter, it would be entertaining to watch.

Still, I pray for him to see the light. No joke; he’s in my prayers.


107 posted on 12/05/2022 1:57:49 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: SouthernClaire

True!

I admire your patience.

Here’s another...

Romans 3:26-28
King James Version

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


108 posted on 12/05/2022 2:02:19 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: patriot torch; Philsworld

Ol’ Phil here is a 4-generation SDA, if my memory serves correctly.

He is steeped in cultism.

We keep hoping one day that he will read texts like you just posted. (Very, very good, btw.)

No luck so far, though, ‘cause he’s still in Phil’s world of the cult known as SDA.

But on we trod, right?


109 posted on 12/05/2022 2:08:18 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: MHGinTN; SouthernClaire

——>you do not BELIEVE Jesus lived and kept the law FOR YOU AND ME

You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

Christ kept the law perfectly, so that mankind would not suffer eternal death, under the CONDEMNATION of the law.

“So the author of the law, the Son of God, had to die because His Law could not be changed. It stands eternal, forever, the law of liberty and righteousness, the very character of God put in words. By dying in our place, He has offered His perfection, His ability to keep the Law of God perfectly, to you a sinner. The demands of the Law of God are met, paid for in full. By believing on Jesus Christ in this matter, you can put on His robe of Righteousness and God will consider you to be perfect, a keeper of the Law, fit to live with Him forever!”

Who was Jesus Christ
and why did He have to Die?
http://www.biblelightinfo.com/gospel.htm

I have some news for you. Because of what Christ did during his life and death, and life again, on this earth, Christians are under an even higher duty to keep His law. You are not excused in any way, shape, or form.

Matthew 5:
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Who was Christ talking to? HIS PEOPLE. We are the REMNANT of HIS PEOPLE. Christians are HIS PEOPLE.


110 posted on 12/05/2022 2:11:52 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

I’ve known some of the same types, and after listening to their boasting of themselves and attempts to bring others under bondage, I am reminded of the Words of Jesus...

Matthew 23:23-25
King James Version

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.


111 posted on 12/05/2022 2:15:32 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: patriot torch

That’s very good, Patriot! Phil refuses to be a part of the Body of Christ as a “new creature” as the Bible defines us. He’s stuck in between old Isreal and what was Spiritual Israel AND the Israel to come.

And, yet and still, he believes God is done with Israel.

Now, tell me, please, can you wrap your head around that?


112 posted on 12/05/2022 2:19:26 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: patriot torch

Then it’s a good thing that I’m saved by faith, just like you are. Now, you need to show Christ you actually mean it.

James 2:
26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

John 14:
15If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever.

20 “At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

1John 2:
3By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments. 4If anyone says, “I know Him,” but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Titus 1:16
They profess to know God, but by their actions they deny Him. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit for any good deed.

1 John 1:6
If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

1 John 1:8
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 John 3:6
No one who remains in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has seen Him or known Him

Etc...

Etc...

Etc...


113 posted on 12/05/2022 2:26:32 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

One third of the Bible is Prophesy, and Israel is the Apple of God’s Eye.

It would be quite consequential to argue with God, yet they continue in their lack of understanding.

Many perish for lack of understanding.


114 posted on 12/05/2022 2:26:48 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: patriot torch

It’s a choice they make: Man (or woman) or God.

They can have the Pope, Miss Ellen, Ole Joseph Smith, et al, but we shall stick with God’s Word ALONE.


115 posted on 12/05/2022 2:29:17 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: SouthernClaire

The best response to those who boast of being law keepers is to ignore them.

When they realize they are powerless to bring us into bondage perhaps they will understand why Jesus died for all, because all have fallen short of the Glory of God.

Galatians 2:4-6
King James Version

4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man’s person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:


116 posted on 12/05/2022 2:34:35 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: patriot torch

Indeed. I believe we should ignore to a point but then answer to a point for those who may later read the thread and not know what the SDA believe, and fall into the trap.

You do so well to quote the Apostle Paul. You won’t hardly ever see an SDA cultist do the same. They quote from Jesus’ words to Israel.

You just can’t get the truth in sideways, no matter how hard you may try.

Reminds me of Yuri Bezmenov who defected to Canada from the USSR, regarding brainwashing: “You can put the evidence in black and white right before their eyes, but they won’t believe it.”

Unfortunately, this applies also to people not believing God’s Word which is the most dangerous brainwashing I can think of.

A person has to want to believe Him.


117 posted on 12/05/2022 2:42:43 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: SouthernClaire
---->And, yet and still, he believes God is done with Israel.

God stuck a fork in LITERAL Israel after the stoning of Stephen. LITERAL Israel had 490 years to repent and believe. They are done as HIS PEOPLE. Luckily, God has a REMNANT, "which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

Rev 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT OF HER SEED, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The REMNANT includes ANYONE (Jew or Gentile) that keeps the commandments of God and has the testimony of Jesus Christ.

BECAUSE...Galatians 3:27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s SEED and heirs according to the promise.…

I'm so sorry for you, Claire, that you don't believe you are part of Abraham's REMNANT seed, that you are not responsible for keeping God's Commandments, being part of the testimony of Jesus Christ. I'm so sorry for you.

118 posted on 12/05/2022 2:44:44 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Please stop sending the same stupid crap to me.


119 posted on 12/05/2022 2:45:44 PM PST by SouthernClaire (Like also as it was in the days of Lot ...)
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To: patriot torch; SouthernClaire

——>The best response to those who boast of being law keepers is to ignore them.

Who’s boasting. I’m just pointing out what the bible clearly states. God isn’t going to force you or Claire to keep His law. That’s your choice. However, you may hear these words after you are judged...”You chose poorly”. Something to think about for sure.


120 posted on 12/05/2022 2:48:41 PM PST by Philsworld
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