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The 'Muslim vs. Christian' debate you need to watch: It features an especially adroit apologist for Islam and a relatively staunch defender of European civilization
American Thinker ^ | 12/01/2022 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 12/01/2022 7:23:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Although somewhat dated, a televised debate from 2019 is instructive of all the "games" certain Muslims play to exonerate their religion while projecting Islam's shortcomings onto the other — in this case, Christian Europeans.

Broadcast by the Turkish Radio and Television Corporation, the debate was supposed to be an interview, but the show's Muslim host, Imran Garda, immediately launched into a diatribe against Dominik Tarczynski, a member of Poland's parliament, for that nation's refusal to take in Muslim migrants.

To his credit, Tarczynski stood his ground, including when Garda introduced the "relativism" card via the 2019 New Zealand mosque massacre of 51 Muslims: he implied that the shooter, Brenton Tarrant, was motivated by Christianity no less than Muslim terrorists are motivated by Islam, so why mention religion? To this, Tarczynski replied with the obvious:

Okay, but how many terror attacks were committed by Christians in the name of the religion?  How many of them shout "Christ is the Lord"? None, zero.  And every single [terrorist attack] committed by Muslims is followed by "Allahu Akbar."  That's just a fact!

That said, and because Tarczynski is still, after all, a Westerner — meaning he instinctively fears the dreaded label of "Islamophobe" — his defense was somewhat incoherent. For example, while insisting that Poland will not take in any Muslim migrants, he repeatedly insisted that "we [Poles] have no problems with Muslims" and "this is not about religion."

He also missed a great opportunity to humiliate his otherwise smug opponent. According to Garda, the aforementioned New Zealand mosque massacre — which he continuously harped on — is the "biggest terrorist attack that has captured the international imagination in recent times." Here, the adroit Muslim managed to promulgate a lie while covering his back:


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christianity; debate; islam

1 posted on 12/01/2022 7:23:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s no Muslim-Christian debate.


2 posted on 12/01/2022 7:26:54 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is a portion of the debate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSX2vI7oPk


3 posted on 12/01/2022 7:27:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ifinnegan

Here is a portion of the debate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSX2vI7oPk


4 posted on 12/01/2022 7:27:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I do not fear being called an Islamophobe, for to dislike and resist Islam merely shows that you have a sane assessment of Islam as a political movement ...never mind that it is a false faith in the spirit of antichrist.


5 posted on 12/01/2022 7:32:35 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SeekAndFind

In terms of theology and critical textual issues Dr. James White has been debating Muslims for years. He is the best Christian debater out there. Much of his stuff is on YouTube.


6 posted on 12/01/2022 7:38:36 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind
Jesus made the lame, walk.

Mohammed made the walking lame.

Jesus made the blind, see.

Mohammed made the seeing blind.

Jesus made the dead, live.

Mohammed made the living, dead.

Jesus died and took his body into heaven.

Don't know where Mohammed's bones are..

7 posted on 12/01/2022 8:02:28 AM PST by Parmy
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“He is the best Christian debater out there”
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Does he present repentance? Does he say that ONLY thru faith in God, thru His Lamb of sacrifice, Jesus Yeshua, can we be saved?

Or does he talk about religion, which will NEVER save anyone.


8 posted on 12/01/2022 8:03:00 AM PST by InkStone (ONLY returning to Faith in God, thru Jesus Yeshua, will save America)
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He preaches all that. He is the author of over a dozen books and teaches Greek and Hebrew at the post graduate level. He theology is conservative and totally bible based.


9 posted on 12/01/2022 8:22:31 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Parmy

Mohammad was so white ...

How white was he?

Mohammad was so white that he could have used mayonnaise for eye shadow.

(his whiteness was actually praised in their literature)


10 posted on 12/01/2022 8:51:02 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SeekAndFind
Okay, but how many terror attacks were committed by Christians in the name of the religion? How many of them shout "Christ is the Lord"? None, zero. And every single [terrorist attack] committed by Muslims is followed by "Allahu Akbar." That's just a fact!

It is indeed about religion, for chosen actions are a result of what we truly believe/are believing. While affirming and referring to some of the Bible, demonically deluded illiterate Muhammad contradicted it, including in Muhammad's commands of regarding retaliation, treatment of enemies, and means of expanding Islam:

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. Sura 5:51 (Yusuf Ali)

They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. Sura 4:89 (Shakir)

Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. 2:190-192 (Pickthal)

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. 2:193 (Pickthal)

Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). 8:38 (Yusuf Ali)

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do. 8:39 (Pickthal)

Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. 4:76 (Yusuf Ali)

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter... 5:33 (Yusuf Ali)

And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 9:3-5 (Yusuf Ali)

But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand. '

But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained. 9:11,12 (Yusuf Ali)

O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque...Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:28,29 (Yusuf Ali)

O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. 9:73 (Pickthal)

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him). 9:123 (Pickthal)

Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain. 47:4 (Pickthal)

11 posted on 12/01/2022 9:47:28 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


12 posted on 12/01/2022 12:30:17 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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