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To: aquila48
"“He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. (Ecclesiastes 3:11)” In other words we cannot know God. I agree, that’s why I’m an agnostic, but I lean toward there being something much bigger than us. It’s the only intellectually honest position that can be defended." Rather, as typical of your reasoning often demonstrated so far, you jump to unwarranted conclusions without dealing much with what else is said involved. Neither Ecclesiastes 3:11 or any other versus teach that God is cannot be known, but that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end" entailing the whole scope of all the work that God does, but while "The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: yet those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law." (Deuteronomy 29:29) Therefore,

But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord. (Jeremiah 9:24)

"I don’t pretend to know who or what God is, but I’ll use his most valuable gift, the brain, to find out what I can. In the meantime I’m OK with saying “I don’t know”."

No, you have instead shown yourself unreasonable, and irrationally opposed to anything close to the God of the Bible, who give you the answer to your question "why did he bother creating us in the first place? What purpose do we serve for him?" And instead, utterly contrary to what is written, you up come up with such adversarial postulations as "I think it’s for his amusement, a bit sadistic I might add. He gets up every morning, looks down at us and if he’s in the mood for some fun, throws a monkey wrench at us (an earthquake, a flood, a serial killer) and sits back and watches our reaction to the latest “act of God”'

Which type of ignorant portrayals is like that of irrational (they indeed are) anti-theists such as I have encountered, who also choose to attack the God of the Bible but dismiss what it says in refutation of them. Rather than being unknowing, God teaches that men as are accountable for general revelation, that of an obviously creased vast, well ordered systematic universe finely tuned with irreducible complexity for intelligent life, (Romans 1:20-21) in addition to the basic innate moral sense that all men at least initially have. (Romans 2:14)

And that in addition to the basic purpose of choosing to seek to know this God of creation, obeying the light one has and thereby coming to The Light, (John 3:19-21; 12:36) - even in a most basic manner placing all ones penitent faith in the mercy of God in Christ as did believers in the true God did before He was formally revealed, (Psalm 34:18) - then the purpose of men is to be instruments of God, or righteousness by His Spirit. (Romans 6)

For believers are to be as Christ incarnate in this world, expressing Him via what they say and do, as His mouth, hands, feet etc. Thereby making a positive difference in lives for time, and for eternity. Talk about a present purpose! And to be a reflection of Him afterwards, to shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father." (Matthew 13:43)

Which make it all worthwhile.

95 posted on 09/25/2022 11:13:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

“Rather, as typical of your reasoning often demonstrated so far, you jump to unwarranted conclusions without dealing much with what else is said involved.”

Yes, I’m rather simple minded.

As they say, God works in mysterious ways.
So I’m quite content in saying I don’t know to the things I don’t know.

Sooner or later I’m sure we’ll all find out more about what this is all about... Or not.

Anyways, thanks for the conversation. I have to go now.


99 posted on 09/25/2022 12:05:59 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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