Posted on 08/25/2022 6:58:06 PM PDT by marshmallow
Rome Newsroom, Aug 24, 2022 / 07:37 am In a message Wednesday, Pope Francis warned against letting ideology influence the Church’s ordained and lay ministries, and said he plans to initiate a dialogue with bishops on the topic.
Francis’ reflection was published on Aug. 24 for the 50th anniversary of Saint Pope Paul VI’s motu proprio Ministeria quaedam, which updated norms for lectors and acolytes following the Second Vatican Council.
An instituted ministry is a type of formal, vocational service within the Catholic Church. It can be either lay, such as lector, acolyte, or catechist (added by Pope Francis in 2021), or ordained, such as deacon or priest.
In his Aug. 24 message, Pope Francis said, “every ministry is a call from God for the good of the community.”
The common good and the building up of community are the two foundations enabling “the Christian community to organize the variety of ministries that the Spirit prompts in relation to the concrete situation it experiences,” he said.
The organization of ministries, he continued, should not be merely functional but should be carried out in “community discernment” and in listening to the Holy Spirit.
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ANTI Pope Francis.
Whenever you see codewords like this, it’s leftism.
“Pope Francis said, “every ministry is a call from God for the good of the community.””
I believe Jesus’s call is to individuals not to communities. IMHO, this Pope views the everything through a Communist lens.
That's what HE has been doing since the real Pope, Benedict XVI, was forced to resign.
The Benedict XVI press release on his resignation was he was leaving because he was so old and feeble and would probably die soon.
THAT WAS ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO. Benedict XVI is still alive and has more mental acumen than Joe Biden.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck...
Comrade Chairman Bergoglio.
I’m told women can’t be “priests” and the ones that are, are not legit.
Can women be ordained as deaconesses (wow! Is that too many “s”s?) in the “holy Roman Catholic church”?
Curious.
Why did you write the “holy Roman Catholic Church” in quotation marks?
Women are not now ordained as deacons in the Church. Until fairly recently, men were ordained as deacons in one of a series of ordination leading to being ordained a priest.
The role of deaconesses in the early Church is unclear, and the Church is apparently investigating this, so perhaps the ordination of women as deacons similar to the current male ordination to the diaconate will be found to be possible.
“Deaconesses” in the ancient church were not ordained to Holy Orders, and didn’t serve the same function as deacons. They were primarily to assist in the baptisms of female catechumens.
Bergoglio keeps proving Luther right.
The ministry of deaconess in the primitive Church was not ordained. It fell into desuetude when adult baptism became rare. Women cannot be ordained to perform the ministries that belong to the deacon, such as proclaiming the Gospel and preaching.
…because that’s what they call themselves. I think they are NONE of the three.
Golly! You just about need a score sheet to keep up with the changing traditions, don’t you?
What Greek word is translated to “deacons“ in first Timothy 3:12?
What Greek word is translated to “servant“ in Romans 16:1?
(HINT: it is not “doulos” - as one might expect.)
LOL
Wow!
You people!
Unbelievable unbelievers.
>> …because that’s what they call themselves. I think they are NONE of the three.
The holy Roman Catholic Church...
Is the Church catholic? Catholic means universal, and one thing I can say about Catholicism is that it is the church which has spread the most throughout the world. Moreover, Church teachings are universally applicable:it doesn’t require you be of a particular nation or background, it doesn’t require literacy, etc.
Is the Church Roman? Well, I would say no, despite the use of the word here and there, in some cases merely to differentiate the western Church since we started using the vernacular in place of Latin.
The use of Roman attached to the Catholic Church started as an insult from the beginning of the Anglican denomination. So “Roman” is not a word that should be used, especially in conjunction with Catholic!
And lastly, is the Church holy? Here we have to consider what is meant by Church. Among the disciples of Christ, there is one who betrayed Hom, one who denied Him, and eleven who deserted Him. The Church has always been full of people who are spiritually ill, even to the point of committing evil acts.
So the Church is more than those who make it up. It is instead a community united by following Christ. Since the Catholic Church was founded by Christ and follows what He taught, then surely the Church *must* be holy.
Shorthand responses because I’m busy and don’t have time for you.
1. Yes
2. Meaningless, but true
3. No, they’re not - when you write “Church” and you mean “RCC”. RCC is not the Church
4. Gibberish.
5. No- we agree.
6. Yes- you wrote “Catholic” THE ACTUAL UNIVERSAL Church (see#3)
7. Yes -“Church” (not RCC) - so, we agree again.
Your “church” does the work of the Enemy- leading people to Hell by feeding their ego.
Bye!
>> Your “church” does the work of the Enemy- leading people to Hell by feeding their ego.
And allowing each person to interpret the teachings of Christ as he or she pleases is *not* feeding their egos?
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