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Head of Russian Church Warns: It is Ominous that Godless Western Society is Disposing of Churches
Global Orthodox ^ | 7/2/22

Posted on 07/03/2022 6:16:08 PM PDT by marshmallow

When the Russian Church celebrated the memory of All Saints of the Russian land, on June 26, Patriarch Kirill consecrated the newly-built Cathedral of St. Andrew in the city of Gelendzhik on the Black Sea. Addressing the faithful, the Patriarch made a remark concerning Christian churches being built and, conversely, demolished or disposed of:

- Where does the Body of Christ appear in the Sacrament of the Eucharist? - In the church of God... Beautiful, magnificent churches are being built, a visible sign of the Christian faith, the faith that has survived to this day in spite of all the twists and turns of history, in spite of all the persecutions.

And how marvelous is today's celebrating the Eucharist in this new church, which is first of all a testimony to the faith of all of you, but especially of those who took the initiative to build it, who contributed their material resources, who supported in every way possible, so that the church could be built in time to reveal its otherworldly beauty to us all.

If you tell somewhere in the so-called “enlightened West” that we are building churches in Russia, they won't believe you. Today Christian churches there, in the enlightened West, are being closed or converted. Converted into mosques, because Muslim communities keep the faith and they need places to pray, so Christians sell their churches to Muslims.

Yet this is not the worst option: churches are often sold to cities, and then used for all sort of events that have nothing to do with religion, that fit the tastes of the godless society. We do not accuse them, but it is ominous when people, society and nation abandon faith, when instead of faith some kind of ersatz, counterfeit is presented to create the appearance of well-being......

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1 posted on 07/03/2022 6:16:08 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

These are the same church leaders who think it’s OK for their troops to rape and pillage.

These people are barely out of the Middle Ages.


2 posted on 07/03/2022 6:19:42 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: marshmallow
It is ominous that Godless Russian armies are disposing of the Ukrainian people and nation.
3 posted on 07/03/2022 6:28:09 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: marshmallow

Socialists pretending to be capitalists shouldn’t throw stones.


4 posted on 07/03/2022 6:29:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Vermont Lt
"These are the same church leaders who think it’s OK for their troops to rape and pillage."

Do you have a reference for that?

5 posted on 07/03/2022 6:30:45 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: marshmallow

The point is well made . America is fallen .


6 posted on 07/03/2022 6:34:11 PM PDT by David Moser
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Word is that Krill is and has Ben a KGB operative for decades, which is the trade off the Russian Orthodox Church made with their communists leaders.


7 posted on 07/03/2022 6:35:44 PM PDT by CWW (Pray for God's Protection!)
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To: CWW

“Word is that Krill is and has Ben a KGB operative for decades, which is the trade off the Russian Orthodox Church made with their communists leaders.”

Link please.


8 posted on 07/03/2022 6:37:10 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: marshmallow

Sounds as if Moscow still thinks it is “THE THIRD ROME”.


9 posted on 07/03/2022 6:38:41 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms.” – Aristotl)
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To: marshmallow
Yes, it is ominous.

Remember when Russia was an atheist nation and the USA was a Christian nation???

GODLESS NATIONS FALL!

10 posted on 07/03/2022 6:39:49 PM PDT by Savage Beast (You are not walking this path alone--all who walked before you are lifting you. --Michael Singer)
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To: marshmallow

The Russian Orthodox Church’s message might carry more weight if they didn’t uncritically support a tyrant like Putin.

CC


11 posted on 07/03/2022 7:04:50 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: marshmallow

I just saw a picture of an old Stuckey’s that was converted into a church, so there is that.

Christians need to avoid despair like the plague. I am not a Protestant any more, but this old Protestant hymn always speaks to me:

And though this world, with devils filled,
should threaten to undo us,
we will not fear, for God has willed
his truth to triumph through us.
The prince of darkness grim,
we tremble not for him;
his rage we can endure,
for lo! his doom is sure;
one little word shall fell him.

That Word above all earthly powers
—no thanks to them— abideth;
the Spirit and the gifts are ours
through him who with us sideth.
Let goods and kindred go,
this mortal life also;
the body they may kill:
God’s truth abideth still;
his kingdom is forever!

Long story short, God wins and so do the faithful.

I have known many Christians who emerged from the darkness of communist persecution. Albania shut down all houses of worship and all public expression of religion for 35 years. Not too many years after the communists fell, I met a young woman who had come here to work as an au pair. She knew all of the hymns and prayers of the Divine Liturgy by heart. I know other Albanians, along with Russians and Serbs, who are seriously devout Christians. And I will never forget seeing the performance of Rachmaninoff’s music for Vespers in Moscow in the last days of the Soviet Union. The work was thought to be lost, until the score was found in some library in Maine. An American choir performed it, and when they came to “Our Father” — all of the audience, young and old, including Red Army soldiers, sang along.

I spent a couple of hours this morning at a beautiful Eastern Rite Catholic Church that has a wonderful young priest and a great group of people. God is worshipped there. He is among us. Nothing is lost unless we lose it.


12 posted on 07/03/2022 7:14:33 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

I posted this a while back on another thread:

Actually Putin’s mother was a closet Christian, and Putin is very pro the Russian Orthodox Church. He is good friends with the Patriarch of the Church. Putin for years has been instrumental in the restoration of many Orthodox churches throughout Russia that had lapsed into decay when the atheistic Communist regimes ruled the land.

Putin wears a Christian cross that his mother gave him, around his neck. I am sure Putin thinks the war in Ukraine is being fought with God on his side, as so many other warring countries have claimed, including our own. Countries believe their wars are “good” wars of necessity, whether they are or not.

Putin considers his war with the West (NATO) that he feels is surrounding Russia, which it is, is partially to keep the moral decay of the West out of his country. No praise of the gay lifestyle, pornography, transgender affirmation, etc. in Putin’s regime like it is in the West. He holds Biden in contempt, as we all do, actually.


13 posted on 07/03/2022 7:52:38 PM PDT by flaglady47 (hmmmmmm.........)
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To: marshmallow

Head of Russian Church Warns: It is Ominous that Godless Western Society is Disposing of Churches

And replacing them with mosques


14 posted on 07/03/2022 8:48:00 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: flaglady47

Plenty of negative things can be said about Putin, and I am in no position to judge his heart, but I will say that he understands which things are constructive for a society and which are destructive. That’s a big contrast to our Left and secularists who are always corrosive and always advance abnormality. He also loves his country and its heritage, again, in contrast to our Left and secularists.


15 posted on 07/03/2022 8:58:30 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: marshmallow

Reading all posts with interest.


16 posted on 07/03/2022 9:38:40 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Russians have a deep seated messianic world view based on the concept of “The Third Rome” It is there duty, set by an orthodox God, that Russia must save the west—and the world and bring them to Christ—IF THE LIKE IT OR NOT! Its worse than Communism because if you die in this crusade—you go to heaven you sins washed away! Eternal life in a Tsarist Heaven.


17 posted on 07/03/2022 11:41:28 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: David Moser

Russia and America will fall.


18 posted on 07/03/2022 11:50:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: The Duke

Do you have references do deny Holomodor precedent?


19 posted on 07/04/2022 3:58:28 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: flaglady47
He is good friends with the Patriarch of the Church.

All the nonsense stories of Putin's Christianity are exactly that-nonsense. He has imprisoned and killed opponents, had mistresses and raised illegitimate children while stealing and amassing great wealth for himself. That's not the life of a true Christian but describes the life of a Tsar. As for the Russian Church, it serves Putin as it has previously served the Tsar's.

20 posted on 07/04/2022 4:38:42 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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