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To: markomalley
My point is that the systems that a given pope manages (or fails to manage) is the primary blame here.

Again I disagree, I think the "man" (Bergoglio), not the "systems" is the primary blame.

After all, the dictator pope has managed to take control of all "systems" (e.g., the Congregations of the Church) under his authority, and even those religious communities that should have been outside of his immediate usurpation of authority , e.g., the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and the Knights of Malta.

9 posted on 06/11/2022 6:30:36 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

The man organizes, directs, and controls the system. He has the power to change how that system is organized and controlled because he directs it.

It appears that you are thinking I’m giving the poser Frankie a break in saying this. I’m not. That system has been in place for hundreds of years. The only Pope in modern memory who actually tried to do something to correct it was Pius X (with his Oath Against Modernism). And even that was ineffective because people could lie when signing that Oath.

The entire system is rotten and has been for a long, long time. Frankie is just the latest symptom of that rot. The Church needs to receive some serious, long-standing divine purgation to bring it back to where it needs to be. Sorry to say, but I’m talking about some Diocletian-level purgation.


10 posted on 06/11/2022 7:59:14 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force in the US -- already gone Galt TYVM)
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