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Maybe we can first hypnotize Bergoglio into requiring the Syro-Malamar Catholics to revert to reception on the tongue as well. After that we’ll snap-reform the Novus Ordo back to the dark ages!


25 posted on 05/25/2022 11:47:35 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Bergoglio would say it’s “reverting” back to the dark ages. But the so-called bringers of light have done the opposite.

1-10 above is either the truth or it isn’t. If the church wasn’t teaching truth during all of that time period, or if truth changes, then why bother listening to the church now?

If the theologies are that different, so different that the new rite excludes the old, then it’s certainly not the mass of Catholic Tradition that’s in error, otherwise the Catholic church was never the true church.

The TLM, existing long before even the 6th Ecumenical Council, was bolstered by the infallible and binding 6th and 19th Ecumenical Councils and the popes then. Francis and his cohorts have declared they can abrogate the Latin Mass - not change it but abrogate it - when it has been infallibly ruled from 1545-63 that it cannot be abrogated.

Then they declare that their abrogation is irreversible acting as if no other popes or councils but they and Vatican II are somehow irreversible (as if the church only began in 1962) thereby attempting to reverse Ecumenical Councils and the popes back then with shills for Francis and Vatican II entering the fray declaring that Francis is somehow more pope than innumerable previous popes.

But this pope is all over the map saying he wants one mass for all Roman Catholics when one strains to find two Novus Ordo masses that are the same even in the same state.

The moment one starts picking away at the ancient 6th Ecumenical Council the door is opened for the Ecumenical Council of Nicaea to be picked away at and tinkered with. But we know the 1st, 6th, and 19th Ecumenical Councils are solid because they are all based upon previous Sacred Scripture and Tradition, don’t conflict with them, innumerable popes then and afterwards bolstered them, and so on. They are eternal.


26 posted on 05/25/2022 12:09:33 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: one guy in new jersey

And many people are unaware that receiving on the tongue goes back to the beginning, whereas the disciples were allowed to touch the host because they were consecrated.

We can see that what St. Sixtus spoke of was already established before his time.

And much of the TLM goes back to 400 AD, before the “dark ages” with alot of the TLM originates before then. Bur there are Eastern Rites established going way back to Thomas’s time and others like him elsewhere and the church hasn’t had a problem with them.

Have a good one and see you around!


27 posted on 05/25/2022 12:18:36 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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