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Nancy Pelosi Doubles Down on Abortion Support in Response to Communion Ban
National Catholic Register ^ | May 24, 2022 | CNA Staff

Posted on 05/24/2022 4:30:49 PM PDT by ebb tide

Nancy Pelosi Doubles Down on Abortion Support in Response to Communion Ban

Responding publicly for the first time to her archbishop barring her from Holy Communion in her home diocese, the U.S. House speaker remains defiant in her support of abortion.

Responding publicly for the first time to her archbishop barring her from Holy Communion in her home diocese, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi remained defiant Tuesday in her support of abortion.

Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone announced May 20 that the California Democrat may no longer receive Holy Communion in the Archdiocese of San Francisco after publicly supporting abortion as a Catholic politician. His decision, Cordilenoe said, is a pastoral one and not political.

Over the years, Pelosi has defended abortion while citing her Catholic faith. The Catholic Church considers abortion — the destruction of a human person — a grave evil.

On Tuesday, Pelosi gave no indication that her position on abortion, and how she speaks about it as a Catholic, will change.

“I wonder about the death penalty, which I am opposed to. So is the Church. But they take no action against people who may not share their view,” she said during MSNBC’s Morning Joe show on May 24.


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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: frankencardinal; frankencatholic; gregory; holytrinity; infanticide; jesuits; murder; nancypelucifer; nastypeloser; pelosi
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To: ebb tide

Nancy and her abortion on demand death cult are responsible for desensitizing the likes of the tranny shooter

She has blood on her hands....


21 posted on 05/24/2022 5:20:42 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: ebb tide

It’s your eternity, nancy.

Hope you like it, because it’s strictly your choice.


22 posted on 05/24/2022 5:25:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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To: Secret Agent Man

God is the One who established the death penalty for certain crimes.

He also opposed the killing of innocents and child sacrifice.

There’s no contradiction there. One is protecting society from a dangerous, guilty individual. The other is slaughtering an innocent party.


23 posted on 05/24/2022 5:27:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Bergoglio, accompanying Pelosi into Hell.
24 posted on 05/24/2022 5:28:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

A Catholic in good standing with the church can have different opinions on the death penalty. I’m for it, my wife is against it. Other than the death penalty she’s like me, to the right of Attila the Hun.


25 posted on 05/24/2022 5:33:12 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ( N)
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To: ebb tide

Remember that Pelosi has already incurred an automatic excommunication (latae sententiae).
No one has to put it in writing; she is piloting herself into hell unassisted.


26 posted on 05/24/2022 5:44:18 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: metmom

Yep

The death penalty is for protecting life of the society and for the taking of a life without just cause


27 posted on 05/24/2022 5:45:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

As I said in another thread, we can get into all the myriad differences between abortion and capital punishment, but why bother?

There is not a single elected official in Cordileone’s diocese who’s a supporter or promoter of capital punishment. Not one. Zero. Zilch. So who exactly is he supposed to crack down on?


28 posted on 05/24/2022 5:50:38 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

Too bad the Church no longer performs the traditional “bell,book and candle” ritual of excommunication. This ritual would make great TV.

The ceremony was performed in some conspicuous place, and, upon its termination, letters were written to bishops of other sees to report the fact. When the assemblage had been convoked, a bishop appeared with 12 priests, and all 13 held lighted candles. The bishop, wearing violet vestments, then recited the formula, ending thus: “We separate him, together with his accomplices and abettors, from the precious body and blood of the Lord and from the society of all Christians; we exclude him from our holy mother the church in heaven and on earth; we declare him excommunicate and anathema; we judge him damned, with the devil and his angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire until he shall recover himself from the toils of the devil and return to amendment and to penitence.” Those present answered, “So be it!” Then the bishop and the 12 priests extinguished their candles by dashing them to the ground, and (as a general rule) the ceremony then ended.


29 posted on 05/24/2022 6:22:37 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: ebb tide

More like “Excommunicate Wilton”. It is Wilton who’s doubling down. Nancy is just his stooge. This is a proxy war within the hierarchy.


30 posted on 05/24/2022 6:35:45 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Secret Agent Man

What’s the Church’s position on the death penalty, since you’re such an expert?


31 posted on 05/24/2022 6:37:16 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

FOAD

You know what it is.


32 posted on 05/24/2022 6:39:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

I like the way you think, ebb tide.


33 posted on 05/24/2022 6:40:43 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: ebb tide

I like the way you think, ebb tide.


34 posted on 05/24/2022 6:40:45 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: ebb tide

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/02/634864608/catholic-church-now-formally-opposes-death-penalty-in-all-cases


35 posted on 05/24/2022 6:41:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. The Catholic Church has never ruled that capital punishment is immoral. The Catechism, which is an official document of Catholic teaching, says that the Church does not exclude recourse to the DP in certain cases.

What ya got?


36 posted on 05/24/2022 6:48:08 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Secret Agent Man

That’s Frankenchurch, not the Catholic Church.


37 posted on 05/24/2022 6:52:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Romulus

Post 35


38 posted on 05/24/2022 8:13:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

Really hate to admit it but the botoxed hag has made the move that divided us all by bringing up a controversial topic to diffuse the attacks on her. Lack of capital punishment has encouraged a lot of murderers.

Good political warfare tactic against us.


39 posted on 05/24/2022 10:41:57 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Secret Agent Man; ebb tide

NPR is not a reliable reporter of matters relating to the Catholic Church. I am aware of the 2018 description of capital punishment as “inadmissible”. That is a meaningless term in moral theology. Because it’s meaningless, it can safely be ignored. The Pope wants you to believe that capital punishment is immoral, yet he did not dare to use that word, because he could not. In statements like this, popes choose their words with extreme care. This is not a matter of “ oops, I meant to say “. This is verbal trickery, and you fell for it.

What kind of fool considers NPR’s reporting, especially on a matter in which we know there’s strong editorial bias, as reliable? What’s its level of competence in parsing ChurchSpeak? What’s the editorial bias of those who get their news from NPR? What message are they most likely to accept uncritically?

No serious moral theologian considers the 2018 statement as having moved the needle on the essential moral quality of capital punishment. They all know that in the old testament, the Lord himself prescribes capital punishment on occasion. There’s no getting around that. Francis is well aware that he’s unable to pronounce capital punishment as immoral, without trapping himself in hopeless contradictions. The official text says “ inadmissible “. It might as well say “ inappropriate “. That is a practical ruling, not a moral one. If it means anything at all, it means that penal systems no longer need capital punishment to function effectively. That may or may not be true, but in any case, the practical question of efficacy lies outside the competence of moral theology.

I hope this helps.


40 posted on 05/25/2022 6:43:50 AM PDT by Romulus
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