The Vindication of the Mother of God

Ancient Faith Ministries ^ | May 10, 2022 | Fr. Stephen Freeman

[FamiliarFace]

Sure, God existed, but not as Man and God in the same being. I think in essence we are saying the same thing. The point was that Jesus wasn’t merely human. He was (is) God.

[Mark17]

This again? 😣

[Elsie]

I think in essence we are saying the same thing.

I'll accept GODbearer, but NOT Birthgiver of God.

The point is, words DO have meanings, and we should not expect differing words to convey the same information.

Hail Mary, mother of GOD... is repeated BILLIONS of times a day.

It is NOT going away.

[Elsie]

(Last night's Wheel of Fortune)

Phrase: BILLION WITH A B

[Elsie]

Gonna interfere with my yardwork!

[Elsie]

It’s a very touching scene.

Then there is the FALSE mixing of the Wisemen into the picture at Jesus' BIRTH...

[Elsie]

Many famous paintings and most people for the last 2,000 years imagine the Wise Men, the Magi, coming to the stable to offer their adoration and gifts to the newborn Jesus. 

But the Bible does not say that.

 

In the Greek, Matthew 2:11 specifies: “And having come into the house, (the Magi) found the little child with Mary, his mother, and having fallen down did homage to him.” 

 

The Greek uses the word oikos meaning  “house, building” to denote the location of Jesus and Mary and uses the word for “young child” (paidion) to denote the approximate age of Jesus. 

 

 

https://earlychurchhistory.org/beliefs-2/visit-of-the-magi/

 

 

[Mark17]

Gonna interfere with my yardwork!

My yard is maintenance free, concrete. 😀

[Elsie]

My concrete needs maintenance!

I power wash the crud off that fall/winter coats it with.

[kinsman redeemer]

She’s NOT the “mother of God”

No matter how hard RCCers try, they will just have to come to the conclusion that she was a sinner in need of a Savior. She has no special power. She does not serve as a mediator to God. She didn’t die as a virgin. She had other kids and she wasn’t “assumed” into heaven. She died and was buried. Her bones deteriorated and they’re in some grave.

I do believe her spirit is in heaven just like any other believer who has already died.

Period.

[Elsie]

While this rule didn’t apply to her because the law referred to an unclean woman as one who had conceived by receiving the seed of man – and Mary did not, as she was with child by the grace of the Holy Spirit – Mary complied.

HMMMmmm...

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Luke 2:22-24

When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord  (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”),  and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”

 

 

The LAW! 

 

Leviticus 12:7-8

Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female.
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

 

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Sinless Mary??

 Not according to Rome's Book;    1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

 

That's the way it is WRITTEN.

 

THIS is the way it is TAUGHT:  1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us; the only exception being Mary, Mother of GOD, of course.

 

 Rome has published facts, in it's book,  that have turned IT's 'Mary' into a HYPOCRITE, by painting her as SINLESS, yet writing of her going into the temple to make a SIN offering.

[Elsie]

I do believe her spirit is in heaven just like any other believer who has already died.

These believers spirits in heaven; do they have a body at this time?

[kinsman redeemer]

Honestly, I'm surprised that you ask. You ought to already know.

For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this tent we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling, if indeed by putting it on we may not be found naked. For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.
2 Corinthians 5:1-10 (emphasis added)

and...

For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. If I am to live in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me. Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell. I am hard pressed between the two. My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better. But to remain in the flesh is more necessary on your account.
Philippians 1:21-24 (emphasis added)

...and then of course, this...

For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (emphasis added)

...when believers who have died (e.g. Mary, the mother of Jesus) beforehand will receive their glorified bodies.

[kinsman redeemer]

Also, I know how you like to argue.

Save it for someone else.

[Elsie]

You ought to already know.

I'm trying to find out if YOU know, as I see no answer to, "These believers spirits in heaven; do they have a body at this time?", in the scripture you've posted.

[Elsie]

Save it for someone else.

OK.

HEY out there in FRland!

ANYONE want to ARGUE with me??

Or the scriptures I post?

[Elsie]

And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Way, wai, WAIT!

Where are these DEAD folks coming front to do this RISING??

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...when believers who have died (e.g. Mary, the mother of Jesus) beforehand will receive their glorified bodies.

I am merely trying to find out the time and place these glorified bodies get attached to our spirits.