Posted on 03/16/2022 5:20:12 PM PDT by marshmallow
ROME – In a videoconference with Patriarch Kirill, head of the Russian Orthodox Church, who has been increasingly supportive of Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, Pope Francis said Wednesday that there is no such thing anymore as a “just war,” and that as pastors of the same Christian faith, the patriarch and pope should “unite our efforts … to help the suffering, to create paths to peace, and to put out the fire.”
The remarks were communicated in a Vatican statement Wednesday evening Rome time. The video conference came after rumors had circulated that Kirill had blocked attempts by Pope Francis to speak directly to Putin.
“The Church must not use the language of politics, but the language of Jesus,” the pope said, according to the Vatican statement.
In what was seemingly a nod to Russian suffering as a result of the war in addition to that of Ukraine, Francis said, “Those who pay the bill for the war are the people, it is Russian soldiers and it is the people who are bombed and die.”
“As pastors we have the duty to stay close and to help all the people who suffer from war,” Francis said. “At one time we also spoke in our churches of holy war or just war. Today we cannot speak like that. The Christian conscience has developed on the importance of peace.”
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Incorrect, fake wicked Pope.
Or wrong, if you prefer.
Oh I don’t know, I seem to recall the Vatican thought what the Ustashe was doing in Croatia at Jasenovac was “Just”.
Kirill has also faced increased criticism and pressure within his own church and the broader Orthodox community for several statements supporting the war, which he blamed on the West for failing to adequately address Russia’s security concerns.
Four Russian Orthodox priests and a deacon in Amsterdam recently became the first to publicly request separation from the Moscow Patriarchate and to shift to the Patriarchate of Constantinople due to Kirill’s position on the war.
The Pope speaks as the Head of State of the Vatican, he is the Politic Incarnate
So fighting in WWII was not a just war?
So this Pope is telling Jews they should just accept extermination?
Because that’s what it sounds like.
Different war. Same idea. Stupid Pope.
I’m sure those Jews who were rescued from the concentration camps would have disagreed.
This fool re-writes Catholic doctrine according to his whim and fashion
The Catechism of the Catholic Church lays out the conditions for just war in paragraph 2309
I wonder what Putin would do if the Grand Duke stepped forth and reclaimed his place as the head of the Russian state?
The Russian Orthodox church recognized him as the official head a year or so ago.
I seem the recall William F. Buckley referring to that in a National Review article on “A Just War” in 1980-81.
I guess the idiot Pope will have to condemn Jesus when he comes back not to bring peace, but with a sword.
Roman Catholic Church Cathecism teaches a Just Wars doctrine, at least for the last 1600 years since St. Augustine. current version below:
2309 The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:
- the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
- all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
- there must be serious prospects of success;
- the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the “just war” doctrine.
The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.
2310 Public authorities, in this case, have the right and duty to impose on citizens the obligations necessary for national defense.
Those who are sworn to serve their country in the armed forces are servants of the security and freedom of nations. If they carry out their duty honorably, they truly contribute to the common good of the nation and the maintenance of peace.107
2311 Public authorities should make equitable provision for those who for reasons of conscience refuse to bear arms; these are nonetheless obliged to serve the human community in some other way.108
2312 The Church and human reason both assert the permanent validity of the moral law during armed conflict. “The mere fact that war has regrettably broken out does not mean that everything becomes licit between the warring parties.”109
2313 Non-combatants, wounded soldiers, and prisoners must be respected and treated humanely.
Actions deliberately contrary to the law of nations and to its universal principles are crimes, as are the orders that command such actions. Blind obedience does not suffice to excuse those who carry them out. Thus the extermination of a people, nation, or ethnic minority must be condemned as a mortal sin. One is morally bound to resist orders that command genocide.
2314 “Every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast areas with their inhabitants is a crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation.”110 A danger of modern warfare is that it provides the opportunity to those who possess modern scientific weapons especially atomic, biological, or chemical weapons - to commit such crimes.
So sprach the Jesuit.
God must have changed His mind after sending Joshua in to conquer the promised land and assure him He would provide the victory.
What’s more, they were to kill everyone - - - EVERYONE - - who was already in the land.
Oh, but wait - God does not change his mind. Could it be that the Pope is WRONG!!???
WWII wasn’t just? Red Francis is communist dunce.
Until Pope Francis throws it down ex-Cathedra, I will stick with Saint Augustine and the Catechism of the Catholic Church when it comes to “Just War”.
Yep
Pope skips over Joshua when he reads his Bible?
Does anyone have any statements from the Pope when he was in Argentina about justness of the Falklands invasion?
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