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To: Philsworld; metmom; Luircin; imardmd1; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; caww; Elsie; ducttape45; ...
You bullied: "You ALL spout the false doctrine of OSAS, but you WON’T answer the question I posed. Why?"

Aws a cultist following a false prophetess -as proven by her prophecies which never came true- you are steeped in works to achieve eternal life. Your question is the wrong way aroubnd, setting your little cultist trap to support your flawed axiom of works to achieve eternal life.

Your unsaved condition of your spirit is revealed in asking such wrong questions. When I accepted Jesus as Savior and Lord, did He expect me to then be a keeper of the law to rfeceive eternal life? LOL, I have a fallen nature still with my flesh so long as I remain in this body. Do I sin? Absolutely, and His Spirit within my human spirit now possessing eternal life by His Presence in me pricks my spirit copnscience so I repent of what I become aware of. BUT He is not abiding in my Human spirit as a goad to show me how and when to keep the law -which, if you read your Bible the Apostles declared was IMPOSSIBLE for me to do before I was born again in spirit and after I am now blessed to have His Presence in my born again spirit.

IF you had posed a proper question you would not be expecting working to keep the law; Jesus kepot the law perfectly and when He died upon that cross for me, He paid the penalty for ALL sin of those who call upon Him. Do you know what ALL means? As a cultist you want to believe He paid for the sins, as if there is a transactional relationship where I must "do" regarding the law in order to retain the eternal life He graced me with the day I first believed in my heart that He is Savior and Lord.

As a cultist your flesh is now shouting 'but, but' and you return to the vomit of your wrong question, because you are determined to flush grace away and feed your pride of self that perhaps even believes you can know all the sins -not that transactional wrong headedness- I am guilty of.

You cannot, as a cultist, comprehend that Jesus paid for ALL my sin when I was born again. WHY? Why ought we see that 'all' given as His Grace to us? Because that perspective does not seek to gain any glory or reward for my behaviors, leaving ALL the glory to Jesus Who offers eternal life to us as Grace, not by works. As a cultist that is the great stumbling stone for you.

165 posted on 03/11/2022 8:02:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
You cannot, as a cultist, comprehend that Jesus paid for ALL my sin when I was born again. WHY? Why ought we see that 'all' given as His Grace to us? Because that perspective does not seek to gain any glory or reward for my behaviors, leaving ALL the glory to Jesus Who offers eternal life to us as Grace, not by works. As a cultist that is the great stumbling stone for you.

+1

I will add to your comment that any cult or Christian falsehood steals from that given to Israel - which they could never fulfill - and attempts to clamp it like leg irons on the church to enslave them, is a false teacher. That message cannot save.

This issue was dealt with definitively in Acts 15, at the Council of Jerusalem...

The Council’s Letter to Gentile Believers

22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

The apostles and elders, your brothers,

To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said.

25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:

29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

Farewell.

This was the totality of requirements the Church leadership wrote under inspiration of the Spirit to new gentile believers. Nothing about fulfilling the law. Nothing beyond this guidance .

And were these things required for them to be saved?????

NO.

Again, Peter, stood up and gave this account...

After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them:

“Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.

8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10

Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

Anyone teaching beyond the inspired message of the Apostles is not communicating the Apostolic teaching, but either cultic works, of perverted pseudo christianity. As such, they and their religion are to be rejected by Christians.

Hear His Word. Obey it. Treasure it. Do not add to it or pervert it.

166 posted on 03/11/2022 8:24:21 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: MHGinTN

Some people just haven’t read Acts 15 I guess.


167 posted on 03/11/2022 10:19:29 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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