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Thank you so much, MHG.

I love your entire post, but would like to especially pay attention to this great part:

“Is it hard to believe that before the Universe was even created, God as The Word, had a knowledge/listing of/for the humans descended from Adam who would believe in Whom God sends for their redemption? God knows the end from the beginning.”

When a person believes they can lose their salvation that God gave them, they’re making God into someone who would give you something and then say, “HEY! Didn’t know that about you when I gave it you. Give it back!”

Cheap date, if you’re asking me.

(Maybe He overlooked something in my past since He doesn’t seem to get the future correct?)

Walter Martin said, “It’s a good thing He saved me then because He might change His mind if He saw me now.”

I’m glad He sees all of time at once and that He gives us His Holy Spirit as an earnest payment.

Well, we all know one thing we can all agree on: God can’t learn anything. That’s not possible. God also can’t lie, of course. Losing salvation puts Him in the position of doing one or the other.

Taking a perspective of space-time from on high, OSAS can’t be refuted ... unless we say God learns something when we sin that He didn’t know when He saved us or that He saves in vain or that He lied when He said it. I’m not willing to believe that God is NOT all-knowing, which is really a very stupid idea. And He sure isn’t a liar. His word states that He does nothing in vain. Looks like we’ve about run out of options here, yeah?

Salvation made easy: Jesus + nothing = Salvation.

The reason our so called “future sins” are covered is because when God saved us, He took the whole record of our sin debt and did away with it.

It wasn’t the sin just up until the point where we got saved and then we have to manage the rest.

Colossians 2:13-14 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

Then He transferred us into the kingdom of Jesus.

Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

And we are now seated in heaven with Christ. We, being in Christ, are positionally, in the spiritual realm, already there.

Ephesians 2:4-10 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Walter Martin said, “It’s a good thing He saved me then because He might change His mind if He saw me now.”

I read his book the kingdom of the cults. I spoke with him by phone several times on his Bible answer man program. He made me laugh when he said, Next up, we have Mark from Travis Air Force Base, California. 😁 I asked him if he had ever heard the the Iglesia ni Cristo (Philippine church of Christ) He said yes, and said they were a very dangerous cult. I said my wife was an ex member of that cult. He made me laugh again when he said if I wanted to start a group called ex Iglesia ni Cristo for Christ, to let him know. 😀

It was brought to my attention by a friend that I misattributed a quote in my post:

“Walter Martin said, ‘It’s a good thing He saved me then because He might change His mind if He saw me now.’”

My apologies for the error. It was Charles H. Spurgeon who said: “It’s a good thing God chose me before I was born, because he surely would not have afterwards.”

Sorry.