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To: kosciusko51; imardmd1; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; Mark17
A most poignant passage indeed! Thanks for posting it.

Is it hard to believe that before the Universe was even created, God as The Word, had a knowledge/listing of/for the humans descended from Adam who would believe in Whom God sends for their redemption? God knows the end from the beginning. The imagery used is a book with names listed therein. To an ancient Israeli that would be a scroll rather than a book with front and back cover and pages inside.

The Cross of Christ shed the blood of the innocent sacrifice and ALL who believe in Him are already judged. That puts ALL the glory on Him Who took our sin debt upon Himself.

In the perspective of a scroll with names written on it, who would be writing or putting the names on the scroll? Who would blot a name off of the scroll? No flesh has that capability, and no flesh has the judging capacity to determine what names are written and which are blotted out. Now let's look at what Jesus accomplished on the Cross.

When Jesus gave His life for humankind ALL humans will be brought back to life, either at the Rapture of the Body of Believers or at the Great White Throne of Judgment. Those brought back to a glorified body and soul are already then alive, resurrected before the Great White Throne happens so they are in Christ and not scheduled for judgment. At the Great White Throne of Judgment a very different scale is used to determine which resurrected will remain out of the separation 'pool' of fire and which will descend into that separation pool for eternity. Since we who get Raptured before the Great White Throne event are already determined in Christ, Graced with His Righteousness, we will not only not be standing for judgment by this different scale but will already be alive away from the pool because we have the Holy Spirit IN our human spirit and He will never leave us so He is not going into the pool for eternity.

I'm an old man and nearly blind, but I do believe I have been given a clarity by the indwelling Presence and that clarity discerns error when my eyes input a passage that does not line up with the Word of God I have been ingesting since 1972.

The Great White Throne is the destiny of ALL who have not been redeemed by the blood of the Christ. That is why today is the day and this is the hour when salvation can haoppen for any who will entrust their eternity to Him, to His shed blood Given for our redemption. To reject that blood is to choose to stand at the Great White Throne and be judged accordign to the life scroll. In God's Mercy and LOve He is The Sovereign and separate sheep from goats. As a blood bought member of the Body of Christ such a judging is not your destginy for you (generic 'you') are IN Christ, a new creation.

1,617 posted on 04/04/2022 10:28:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SouthernClaire

Meant to include you in the ping, m’Lady. The post is just dripping with Chuck Missler teachings.


1,618 posted on 04/04/2022 10:33:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; Elsie

This is why I keep saying that we could settle this disagreement simply with an understanding of perspective.

From God’s perspective, those who have salvation cannot possibly lose it, because God’s written the story, and HE is the author, not us.

But from a human perspective, it’s possible to think that you genuinely believe, and yet your belief is a false one, or to think you have faith, but to fall away because of either persecution or the allures of the world.

It’d easily resolve all those passages that we keep throwing back and forth at each other.


1,621 posted on 04/04/2022 11:34:19 AM PDT by Luircin
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