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To: boatbums; Philsworld
NO ONE is telling people they can freely live in sin because of God's grace!

BB, I think Philsworld has probably skipped over this counsel to the people at Rome, where he confirmed that once God saves, it is perfect salvation, and that when He imparts eternal absolute life. to be eternal never-ending it simply cannot end, or it won't be the eternal, would it?

Paul says:

Romans 5:19-21; 6:1-2
19For as by one man'sAdam's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of onetje God Incarnate human Jesus shall many be made righteousonce for one person not to be removed20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.  1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?  1God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 
It is impossible when one is "dead" to some idea or activity to be engaged in it, is it not?

I think it is pretty obvious that the Holy Spirit, speaking through Paul to the regenerated saved servant of the perfectly saving Savior and for the Father (who imparted eternal life to the person receiving His irrevocable gift of salvation unrescindable by the receiver, whose future is well-known by the omniscient LORD), has told us here that going forward, the servant is NOT NOR WILL BE walking in the sin which has been paid for and removed by the Shed Blood of Jesus. S there is nothing, not even a choice to draw back unto perdition, for the one who is experiencing the OSAS promise and knowledgeably living it.

What Philsworld is showing us that by claiming that OSAS does NOT exist not only does not have faith enough to BE saved by faith, but as long as he (she?) holds that opinion can never be given that gift which is far more precious than he values it.

That's the bottom line. If the true meaning of Scripture is to give saving faith to be germinated in the implanted sperma of God, His Word preached by a Sower(Mt. 13:3-8;Rom. 10:17; 1 Jn. 3:9), then neither you nor I, BB, can give mre of it it to him.

And there is a time when God Himself ceases to strive with his spirit(Gen. 6:3), and when that happens, the offer of the gift of salvation through His unbounded grace will be withdrawn.

What a shame. When the Scripture says "God forbid!" that is not merely a euphemism. That is exactly what God does, forbids, does not allow to happen, at all.

I fear very much that time may be past for Philsworld, and that neither you nor I can help him.

1,591 posted on 04/04/2022 3:38:24 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
I fear very much that time may be past for Philsworld, and that neither you nor I can help him.

You might be right bro. I would prefer all people get saved, but some just won’t be saved. There is precious little we can do to help, but we did what we were told to do. Present the gospel, and leave the rest up to God. 👍

1,604 posted on 04/04/2022 5:34:15 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: imardmd1; Elsie
---->What a shame. When the Scripture says "God forbid!" that is not merely a euphemism. That is exactly what God does, forbids, does not allow to happen, at all.

If only that were true (but it's not). It's also totally ridiculous for you to say such a thing.

Romans 6:15

12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Now go back and re read Hebrews 10:26-31.

1,613 posted on 04/04/2022 6:59:13 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: imardmd1; Elsie

——>What Philsworld is showing us that by claiming that OSAS does NOT exist not only does not have faith enough to BE saved by faith, but as long as he (she?) holds that opinion can never be given that gift which is far more precious than he values it.

Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT...
...DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE.


1,614 posted on 04/04/2022 7:20:46 AM PDT by Philsworld
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