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Catholics Don't Believe You Can Earn Your Way to Heaven
Tradition | 03-06-2022 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 03/06/2022 11:16:06 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

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To: aMorePerfectUnion
If they reject the gospel of grace, and insist on their own righteousness through works, they are unsaved and go to an eternity of hell, very sadly.

You are correct sir. We are either saved by faith, or we are saved by works, but no way on God’s green earth, is it a combination of the two. That would be another gospel, and it’s false.
Remember, even at the great white throne judgment, they will still try to claim salvation by works. God will simply say, I never knew you.
So, the question still remains. Why do sinners still choose hell, over heaven? Why? It makes no sense, but they still do. Oh well, I know I am OSAS. 😀👍

1,301 posted on 03/31/2022 7:13:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

See you in the clouds, Brother!


1,302 posted on 03/31/2022 7:18:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: af_vet_1981

Not required to be saved.

If the unsaved do them under their own power,they are deadworks.

If the saved believer does the from the new life of Christ in him, he is rewarded.

Wouldn’t you like to be saved??


1,303 posted on 03/31/2022 7:21:52 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: af_vet_1981

RVG Placemarker


1,304 posted on 03/31/2022 7:22:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: MHGinTN
See you in the clouds, Brother!

Roger that bro. OSAS ping. 👍😀

1,305 posted on 03/31/2022 7:34:05 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

Still planning to grab ebb by the scruff of his neck to take him up with me!


1,306 posted on 03/31/2022 7:44:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

LOL, good luck with that. I have a feeling, if you tried to grab some people and take them up in the rapture, some might still say, no thanks, they prefer hell over heaven. Maybe it’s just the mystery of iniquity. Sin warps their minds, so they cannot reason well, cuz no one with two functioning brain cells should prefer hell over heaven, but they do.


1,307 posted on 03/31/2022 8:06:47 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: af_vet_1981
Quite a rationalization of what Levi wrote in his words that were inspired by the Holy Ghost to be in the common Greek, as the rest of the bremainder of the texts of the New Covenant also were.

The assessment of the words of Peter's pronouncement were quite obviously in the nature of Special Revelation, and when that was confirmed as a revelation not of Peter, but of The Father, then what I said about it is no longer arguable. I did not create the narrative, I merely pointed it out some of its feaatures for what they were.

When Jesus gave the lesser being Satan a direct command, it was he that had taken over Peter's will and was influencing Peter.Satan was in the presence of the Company, and Jesus addressing the issue confirmed that fact, which my comment was only made to draw the reader's attention to that unarguable fact.

I'm amazed that you have the gall to basically indicate what I wrote was a fib, and using an unsupportable fabrication to do it!

Again, I'm not wrangling with you any more over this matter.

1,308 posted on 03/31/2022 8:10:05 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
Again, I'm not wrangling with you any more over this matter.

Sometimes I think that is all we can do bro. There seems to be lots of false doctrines here. When you correct someone’s false doctrines, about 10 times, and 30 seconds later, they come at you, with the same false doctrines, that you just refuted, all you can do, is leave them to their own devices, and say, have a nice eternity. 🔥

1,309 posted on 04/01/2022 3:21:45 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: af_vet_1981; wita
an animal does not have a soul capable of free will, sin, faith and salvation

Are you SURE???


 


 FREE KITTENS

 

A pretty little girl named Suzy was standing on the sidewalk in front of her home in Salt Lake City. Next to her was a basket containing a number of tiny creatures; in her hand was a sign announcing FREE KITTENS.

Suddenly a line of big black cars pulled up beside her. Out of the lead car stepped a tall, grinning man.

"Hi there little girl, I'm President Russell Nelson. What do you have in the basket?" he asked.

"Kittens," little Suzy said.

"How old are they?" asked Nelson.

Suzy replied, "They're so young, their eyes aren't even open yet."

"And what kind of kittens are they?"

"Mormons," answered Suzy with a smile.

Nelson was delighted. As soon as he returned to his car, he called his PR chief and told him about the little girl and the kittens.

Recognizing the perfect photo op, the two men agreed that the president should return the next day; and in front of the assembled media, have the girl talk about her discerning kittens.

 

 

So the next day, Suzy was again standing on the sidewalk with her basket of "FREE KITTENS," when another motorcade pulled up, this time followed by vans from Deseret News, The Ensign magazine  and KSL.

Cameras and audio equipment were quickly set up, then Nelson got out of his limo and walked over to little Suzy.

"Hello, again," he said, "I'd love it if you would tell all my friends out there what kind of kittens you're giving away."

"Yes sir," Suzy said. "They're Christians."

Taken by surprise, the Living Prophet® stammered, "But... but... yesterday, you told me they were MORMONS."

Little Suzy smiled and said, "I know. But today, they have their eyes open"




1,310 posted on 04/01/2022 3:54:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; wita
Salvation depends on a person entrusting himself to Christ alone by faith.

Not according to OTHER sources!




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng


1,311 posted on 04/01/2022 3:59:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Ah, there it is, depends on what the person does, but the Messiah is not alone.

So true.

Rome allows the belief that His mom is very important in the process; too.

1,312 posted on 04/01/2022 4:00:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
... His mom is very important in the process; too.

(Other religions say that Jesus also needs some help.)

1,313 posted on 04/01/2022 4:01:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
...and certainly could not know his heart.

Well...

...who could?!?


Jeremiah 17:9 KJV

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

1,314 posted on 04/01/2022 4:03:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

😀🙃👍


1,315 posted on 04/01/2022 4:08:16 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17
Why do some people hear the truth, but deliberately choose the lake of fire?

One reason is that they are deceived as to the way there.



1,316 posted on 04/01/2022 4:11:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17

Saved, saved, SAVED!!!

All this blather about being saved.

The BIG issue is how are we gonna be KEPT!!!

What kinda work am I REQUIRED to do to RETAIN my Salvation??


1,317 posted on 04/01/2022 4:14:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
One reason is that they are deceived as to the way there.

I guess so, but didn’t Jesus say, take heed that no man deceive you? 😂😀

1,318 posted on 04/01/2022 4:14:43 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17
...no one with two functioning brain cells should prefer hell over heaven, but they do.

It appears you have a poor concept of the advertising world.



1,319 posted on 04/01/2022 4:17:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
...and say, have a nice eternity. 🔥

This is my standard reply back when the cashier says, "Have a nice day."

(Only I replace 'eternity' with 'forever'.)


Try it!

You'll get wonderful responses back!

1,320 posted on 04/01/2022 4:21:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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