Are You Truly Saved? Sermon by Paul Washer

YouTube ^ | 9/24/20 | Paul Washer

[No.6]

Without watching videos (and IMO the only reason someone’s got their videos on YouTube is to get that crunchy globalist monetization $) I can say that:

- By faith one is saved.

Not ‘and then this’ or ‘only if afterwards X, Y, and Z but not M or N” or “I, another human being, can tell it was or wasn’t real based on my observation of EFJHIJ.” (ref. Jude 1:9)

- Because one is saved, therefore in gratitude one endeavors to carry out the Lord’s commands.
- Because we are still in the world, we do so imperfectly. This is awful, and also good for us, otherwise we might say “I did it!” and be lost.
- Because the Lord is working through us for our own salvation and others’, we may or may not exhibit gifts (which are gifts, not earned) to whatever degree. See parable of the vineyard workers.
- Also, because we’re in the world, and not already with Christ in glory, it is not incorrect to say that we ‘have’ been saved and also ‘are being’ saved, and also that we ‘look forward to being’ or ‘hope to be’ saved. We are in time; the Lord is beyond time. Grammatical expressions indicate time, not timelessness.

Those things are IMO certain and you can read them in various parts of the NT foreshadowed by similar parts of the OT.

As a personal observation, I think it’s unwise to get stuck on such things (pre/post trib, ‘elect,’ and such) other than to be thankful that, in fact, there are things beyond our complete understanding (aka ‘mysteries’) — it’d be a poor universe that was entirely within our comprehension. At worst it’s an avenue to either pride or doubt of faith.

[roving]

He always sounds like he is about to burst into tears.

[Texas_Guy]

No. Read James Chapter 2. Works and faith go hand in hand.

[metmom]

Works don’t save.

they don’t get you saved or keep you saved.

They are merely evidence of salvation, not the cause of it.

[Texas_Guy]

That’s not what either James or Matthew says.

That’s not what the church taught for 1500 years before Luther.

If you don’t do the will of God, which are good works, then you’ll never live in his presence in eternity.

[MurphsLaw]

You know the Church condemned Pelagius and his works heresy..

We are Saved by umerited Grace through our Baptism which regenerates.
The rest is process...
Sanctification that starts in Baptism, transforms us throughout our lives... requiring all- obedience, love, faith and works- all necessary to complete that Salvation process, which is finally complete in Heaven.
There are no cheap short cuts.
No one can say they have obtained Salvation in our earthly flesh.

Christ didn't tell the obedient,
rich young man- that all he had to do was "have Faith" to obtain eternal life...
no, he told him something he did not want to hear...

[Paperpusher]

“Works don’t save.

they don’t get you saved or keep you saved.

They are merely evidence of salvation, not the cause of it.”

AMEN! Believing that works can get you saved or keep you saved is also known as legalism. The best, finest works and righteousness we can do are like filthy rags in the sight of the Lord.

[Texas_Guy]

No. Works are important for Salvation. From Matthew:

When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne,
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g and all the nations* will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
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He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
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Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
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h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
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naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
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Then the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
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When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
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When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
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i And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
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* j Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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k For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
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a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
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* Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
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He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
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l And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

[Zionist Conspirator]

Let's see . . .

If you're "saved," you know it. But . . .

You can think you're saved and not be.

This means real certitude is impossible.

[Paperpusher]

I think we are talking about the same thing but from different angles. Jesus and his shed blood is the only thing that matters. Romans 2:15 says Gods law is written on the hearts of the saved. Good Works are not important FOR Salvation, good works are evidence OF salvation.

[MurphsLaw]

I think we are talking about the same thing but from different angles.

I’m not so sure.
That’s seems like a nice thing to say- but actually in reality the situation is quite opposite. It’s two different religions that we can see. The hard division is there if we are truly trying to living out what we believe, and that is the basis for a religion.

One religion, older, has always said : DO the will of the Father, to abide in him, in hope for eternal life- The newer religion says (un-biblically): Just ask Jesus into Your heart as personal Lord and Savior, and you’re saved automatically and forever.

So no, when one looks closely - we are not “talking about the same thing. We are talking about 2 very different faith lifestyles.

Understandably, we can say some doctrines can be the “same thing”. We know we cannot do ANYTHING to earn or merit God’s Grace – ever- The Church proclaims this unequivocally. But it’s a tradition of men to jump from there to assured salvation forever. That’s not Biblical- and it’s not St. Paul. The Catholic Church has always believed as written:

16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide; so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.

One religion says we must bear fruit
to remain in his Love, or be thrown away into the fire, :

The other religion says we are already saved, and that’s enough
– as what we do has no bearing on our souls. That we should bear fruit- and will bear fruit if sincere- however there is not to be considered a relevance to Salvation. The Grace we are given is freely given- and there need not be any cooperation necessary with it.
Again- we are seeing 2 different religions here:

John 15 2 Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be my disciples. 9 As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you; abide in my love. 10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love,….


That’s some tough reality there. Obedience is what me must abide in- not the false ideal of already being saved- or not needing to consider how to remain in Christ as we fall into sin – which of its own may even lead us to the acceptance of a sinful life- One that does NOT require the fruits so often talked about.

Historically, If God could cut off some of the Natural branches of his vine (His chosen people) in that we may be grafted on perhaps – how in the world can we think we “Christians” could not suffer that same fate as in written in John 15?

THIS WAS WHY I saw confusion in the posted video I watched – and simply asked for some clarification from the poster- (and subsequently received none.)

MATT 7 warns us pretty clearly as well. “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES the will of my Father who is in heaven.

“Every one then who hears these words of mine and DOES them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; (upon this Rock perhaps?)
25 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
26 And every one who hears these words of mine AND DOES NOT do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand; 27 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”

Does that sound like an assured guarantee of Salvation?
We MUST DO…. Not just ‘believe -
And that is quite opposite from saying we don’t need to DO anything at all.

How can that not be 2 different religions…. ?

[metmom]

Genuine saving faith will result in works.

But they do not contribute to salvation in any way. They are simply evidence to the world of the fact that saving faith was exercised and that God regenerated the spirit of the person.

That person is still saved even if the world decides it doesn’t see any evidence of it.

[metmom]

Sanctification is simply growing into Christlikeness.

It does not contribute to our salvation.

The salvation is a done deal, settled in heaven, sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.

Sanctification is the process by which that salvation is worked out, not worked for.

[ebb tide]

The salvation is a done deal, settled in heaven, sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.

Salvation is never done until you're dead and facing God for your judgement.

Presumption is a sin.

[MurphsLaw]

Still, while your comment is more aligned to Catholic doctrine than other modern religions... I don't see necessity.

If I am fully Justified by God, found to be not guilty forever...
sanctification- while a nice thing... becomes somewhat optional and not necessary to add to my salvation- being fully justified.

If I'm in- I'm in.
So why bother? His Sacrifice cannot be added to.

[caww]

...”If I’m in- I’m in.
So why bother? His Sacrifice cannot be added to”.....

Those who are “IN” Christ generally wouldn’t think that way because His Spirit now lives in them. Ones desires change, how one thinks and feels as well.