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To: ebb tide

I think the Pope is just trying to adjust the Church to modern realities. He is not an evil person.

In my youth Catholic schools were filled with Catholic students who learned Latin. This is no longer the case, meaning it is not practical to train enough priests that speak and understand Latin.

Nevertheless, many parishioners find a Latin mass to be spiritually comforting. The Pope should try to minister to his flock the best available human resources allow. This may mean only a few churches in even a large city offer a Latin mass and that many areas don’t have access to a weekly Latin mass.


11 posted on 12/23/2021 4:44:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

I recall when I lived in Paraguay many years ago there was a movement throughout the Southern Cone for Catholics to join the traditional movement of Cardinal Lefebvre. It was then fought tooth and nail by the Jesuits, just as it is by a Jesuit Pope today. I am a Protestant, but I could not then, and cannot now, understand why this should be considered an anathema by the Catholic Church hierarchy. It is fought like it is the reincarnation of the Arian Heresy. To me it still remains a thoughtful, holy way, to approach the Mass.


16 posted on 12/23/2021 5:57:12 PM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Brian Griffin
it is not practical to train enough priests that speak and understand Latin

All of my priest friends have excellent Latin. It is not necessary to know Latin to attend Latin Mass since God knows Latin and all the prayers are addressed to Him. It is quite simple to pray along with the translation in English on one side of your missal.

17 posted on 12/23/2021 5:58:44 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Brian Griffin

There was an article about mass in American Thinker about 6 months ago. Polling showed that TLM attendance was younger and growing and it was also attracting converts. Attendance at the normal mass was declining. Sometimes leaders of the church are focused on what they want to succeed as opposed to what is succeeding. That is a problem of many Protestant churches as well.


19 posted on 12/23/2021 6:30:00 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: Brian Griffin
I think the Pope is just trying to adjust the Church to modern realities.

That was the problem with VC II. Big failure.

He is not an evil person.

He most certainly is. He caters to muslims, abortionists, atheists, communists, tree huggers, etc; yet he persecutes Catholics who are merely practicing the faith of their fathers.

20 posted on 12/23/2021 6:37:59 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Brian Griffin

Priests are supposed to know Latin by the time they leave seminary. If they don’t, their seminary education is seriously deficient.


21 posted on 12/23/2021 6:42:04 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Brian Griffin
This is no longer the case, meaning it is not practical to train enough priests that speak and understand Latin.

And whose fault is that?

Answer: The VC II's New Springtime; the New Pentecost!

22 posted on 12/23/2021 6:44:16 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Brian Griffin
it is not practical to train enough priests that speak and understand Latin.

Canon law requires seminarians to be taught Latin. The fact that Latin is taught in few, if any, seminaries is the fault of the bishops.

25 posted on 12/24/2021 2:21:17 PM PST by ELS
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