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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I respect your beliefs and understand your reasoning. However, I must respectfully disagree and witness to the fact that Mary, Christ’s mother is the ever perfect, ever virgin Mother of God. She is the Immaculate Conception. Through God’s Grace, she was conceived without sin. As the new Eve and Ark of the Covenant, she bore the perfect Christ in her perfect Womb.

She is utterly unique in history. The perfect does not come from the flawed.

You are free to disagree or malign what I believe and hold dear and true. But, I am posting this comment not to argue, but in witness.


13 posted on 12/17/2021 7:55:02 AM PST by Toad of Toad Hall (Ryukin Limited)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

Not ever virgin in scripture
Not sinless in scripture - simply the women God chose and gave His Grace in that choice.
Not blessed *above* women, but *among* women.

It is Christ who was born sinless as God.


25 posted on 12/17/2021 8:14:03 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: Toad of Toad Hall
She is utterly unique in history.

Indeed, she is! There is much in scripture that we may not understand this side of heaven. E.g., if we insist on applying all scripture equally to all men and women, then all the scriptures describing and condemning MAN as a sinner apply to Jesus. Why? Because Jesus is a man.

Scripture says that Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world. Jesus said on the the cross, "It is finished". Why are these references to scripture a challenge. Because they do not depend on time and space as we understand those realities.

The point is that God's ways are higher than our ways and the Lord is not limited by our limitations or the laws of physicis and nature. He is supernatural and can operate supernaturally, i.e., outside of nature.

Mary is the mother of God! How that worked and works frankly is a mystery for me. She is unique and she is deserving of our veneration. Mary is the Theotokos !

29 posted on 12/17/2021 8:33:59 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Toad of Toad Hall; The Ignorant Fisherman

If Mary was “conceived without sin” and “is the ever perfect, ever virgin Mother of God” because God chose to have it that way, why couldn’t JESUS be born without sin because God chose it that way?


61 posted on 12/17/2021 12:08:15 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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