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[Catholic Caucus] Don’t Avoid The SSPX. Avoid The VC II Church.
Mundabor's Blog ^ | November 9, 2021 | Mundabor

Posted on 11/10/2021 4:40:00 PM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Don’t Avoid The SSPX. Avoid The VC II Church.

The Diocese of Denver has “warned” their faithful from attending Mass at a chapel of the SSPX. Some people really are tone deaf.

Such an appeal would have been dumb enough in normal times. People don’t attend at the SSPX chapel because they happen to be in the neighbourhood. They attend there because the TLM gives them a nourishment the Novus Ordo never could, and they want to give witness of sound Catholicism in the time of Francis.

The dumbness becomes, then, absolutely idiotic if you consider that we live in TC times, when Vatican thugs tell you that the TLM is divisive and they will shut down as many of them as they can. It’s quite amazing that a Bishop can be so tone-deaf, or so incompetent, or so outright, well, stupid that he does not understand that the attendance at any SSPX chapel is as assured and deliberate now as it ever was.

On the contrary, such “appeals” coming from the same V II church that is now clearly working against her own faithful in any way she can will only reinforce the popularity of the Society.

I would like to make the contrary appeal to the faithful of the Diocese of Denver: if at all reasonably practical, ditch the Diocese and its V II mass and attend at the SSPX. Send there all your friends and all your donations, too! If the Bishop allows some TLM there – likely, because the competition of the SSPX is there – you may want to make an exception for the TLM masses, but for them only.

Who knows, when the music get strident enough even those extremely tone deaf bishops might begin to understand that something is very wrong with their attitude, and they need to start cleaning up their shop.

I am not even interested here if this Diocese is not one of the worst ones. If they attack Tradition in every form, they should get what’s coming to them.

After TC there is no “good bishop who doesn’t really like the SSPX” anymore.

You defend Tradition, or you are against us.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: denver; rottenfruit; tlm; vcii
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1 posted on 11/10/2021 4:40:00 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

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2 posted on 11/10/2021 4:40:30 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

The FSSP has a beautiful church and a growing parish in the greater Denver area; I imagine the local SSPX chapter has lost members to it.


3 posted on 11/10/2021 6:34:24 PM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: Captain Walker

What is the FSSP?


4 posted on 11/10/2021 6:36:03 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Captain Walker

You can imagine all you want, Captain.

I recommend you google Fr. James Jackson, FSSP / child porn and do some more imagining as to who is losing members.


5 posted on 11/10/2021 6:52:14 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Captain Walker
The arrest of Fr. James Jackson in Providence, Rhode Island, and the allegations against him regarding possession of child pornography are extremely troubling.

Fr. Jackson served at Our Lady of Mount Carmel in Littleton from August of 2006 until July of 2021. Our Lady of Mount Carmel is a parish run by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP), a religious order that assigns the priests who serve at the parish.

Glass houses / stones, Captain. Think about it.


6 posted on 11/10/2021 6:59:46 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Angelino97
It's an order of priests that offers the Traditional Latin Mass while being in full communion with the Church.

(Look up the "Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter" and the "Institute of Christ the King"; if you are anywhere near one of these parishes, attend Mass there. They are both in full communion with Rome.)

7 posted on 11/10/2021 7:03:09 PM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: ebb tide
But you're not suggesting that the SSPX isn't a haven for homosexual priests, are you?

(You must be familiar with the exposé that Church Militant did on them. One of them was arrested in Switzerland for no other reason than because Church Militant turned him in to the authorities.)

8 posted on 11/10/2021 7:04:45 PM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: Captain Walker
I'm not suggesting anything.

I just resent your past lies and current insinuations about the SSPX.

I have no problems with any priestly organizations or diocesan priests who offer the TLM.

When are you going to knock that chip off your shoulder?

9 posted on 11/10/2021 7:11:13 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Captain Walker

Why don’t you talk about the haven for homosexual priests in the Novus Ordo, Captain?


10 posted on 11/10/2021 7:13:57 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
Fr. Jackson served at Our Lady of Mount Carmel in Littleton from August of 2006 until July of 2021. Our Lady of Mount Carmel is a parish run by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP), a religious order that assigns the priests who serve at the parish.

I would have crossed paths with this priest, as I have been to this church several times in the past few years; I simply don't recall if I saw him.

11 posted on 11/10/2021 7:15:43 PM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: ebb tide
Because we know all about the homosexual clergy in the Novus Ordo parishes.

You were holding up the SSPX as if it was free from homosexual priests.

12 posted on 11/10/2021 7:17:17 PM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: Captain Walker; Angelino97
It's an order of priests that offers the Traditional Latin Mass while being in full communion with the Church.

"Full communion" as opposed to "imperfect communion".

Same as a full pregnancy versus an imperfect pregnancy.

Homo priests like Fr. James Martin, S.J., Blaze Cupich, Wilton Gregory are all in "full communion".

Cancelled priests who defend the Catholic faith and Sacraments from sacrilege are not in "full communion", a requirement demanded by the Captain.

14 posted on 11/10/2021 7:26:34 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Captain Walker
That the SSPX is not in full communion with the Church is not in question; I haven't said anything more than this.

That's not true. It is in question and you have said much more than that.

Do you honestly think James Martin, S.J. and the heretic German bishops are in "full communion"?

15 posted on 11/10/2021 7:31:34 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Captain Walker
Do you claim Bishop Athanasius Schneider is not in "full communion", Captain?

Bishop Schneider: SSPX Personal Prelature Would Redress “Unjust” Suppression

I recommend you be more selective in picking your "imaginary" enemies, Captain. You remind me a guy named Jorge Bergoglio.

16 posted on 11/10/2021 7:39:31 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Captain Walker
Here's another one of your heretic priests (a franciscardinal at that) in "full communion" with Rome, Captain:

Cardinal Cupich hints at major Latin Mass crackdown in Chicago

The notoriously pro-LGBT prelate suggested that Catholics may need to ‘leave behind’ the Latin Mass in light of Traditionis custodes.

17 posted on 11/10/2021 7:55:12 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Captain Walker
I would have crossed paths with this priest, as I have been to this church several times in the past few years; I simply don't recall if I saw him.

Should be no problem for you since he was in "full communion".

Heaven forbid if you ever crossed paths with a "cancelled priest", who obviously would no longer be "in full communion".

18 posted on 11/10/2021 8:17:39 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw
Since they deny the papacy- they are rank hypocrites to accept any of the good will Pope's have extended to them- and that includes Pope Francis.

That's a downright lie.

Your killer bees, Barron, Bergoglio and Biden, have taught you well in that art, Murph.

Stick with Barron and Bergoglio, and your sticking with Lucifer. How much money have you thrown away to that charlatan, Boobie Barron, of yours?

20 posted on 11/10/2021 9:11:24 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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