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Top Vatican cardinal says Biden should not be denied Communion
National Catholic Reporter ^ | October 4, 2021 | Christopher White

Posted on 10/04/2021 9:16:45 PM PDT by ebb tide

Top Vatican cardinal says Biden should not be denied Communion

Cardinal Turkson says denying the sacrament should only take place in "extreme cases"

ROME — U.S. President Joe Biden should not be denied Communion, said Cardinal Peter Turkson, warning that the denial of the sacrament should only take place in "extreme cases."

"The Eucharist should not in any way become a weapon," Turkson said in an interview with AXIOS on HBO, which aired Oct. 3. "If you say somebody cannot receive Communion, you are basically doing a judgment that you are in a state of sin."

When asked directly by journalist Mike Allen if that applied to Biden, only the second Catholic president in U.S. history, Turkson replied "no." In discussing the "extreme cases," Turkson offered an example of a priest denying Communion to a known murderer, which he implied would be a legitimate grounds for denying it. 

The Ghanian cardinal's remarks come ahead of a high stakes meeting of U.S. bishops next month where the body is expected to vote on a new document on "eucharistic coherence." The controversial document is being drafted in response to calls from some conservative Catholic bishops to deny Communion to Biden and other Catholic politicians who support legal abortion. The Vatican has previously urged caution on proceeding ahead with such a proposal. 

While not directly weighing in on the situation in the United States, Pope Francis said last month that priests and bishops should be pastoral and not political when it comes to the issue of Communion. The pope also said he had never denied the sacrament to anyone.

"What should a shepherd do? Be a shepherd and not going around condemning or not condemning," Francis said. "They must be a shepherd with God's style. And God's style is closeness, compassion and tenderness."

Turkson, who heads the Vatican's Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development and works in close collaboration with Pope Francis, went on to address a number of other topics in the wide-ranging interview, including climate change, women's ordination, the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, racism and the COVID-19 pandemic. As the two men bounced from topic to topic, they appeared to be talking over each other at various points in the exchange. 

"They can and they need to do more," said Turkson of the vaccine distribution efforts of larger, wealthier countries. 

The cardinal said he wanted "to encourage heads of state and leaders in Africa to also explore traditional therapies for this," saying that if "local heads of state were to promote local herbal medication, our dependence will not be 100% on vaccines." He did not deny the effectiveness of vaccines. 

Turkson is the head of the Vatican's COVID-19 commission, established in April 2020, and has previously argued that the world must reject "vaccine nationalism" and instead embrace a mindset of global solidarity when it comes to vaccine access. 

On racism in the Catholic Church, Turkson acknowledged that "certainly, the church can do more." 

"There was a time when church institutions owned slaves because it was the turn of the time, as it were," he said. 

When asked what the church should do to make up for that, he said that "What is past is past. Reparation if it can be made, can be made. But then it, it's also a call for the resolve to not repeat past errors." 

The cardinal said he faces no personal struggles with the church's teaching against ordaining women to the priesthood. He went on to wonder aloud whether it is a question of rights. 

"Not even men who are ordained consider that to be a right," he said. When asked his response to the fact that women make up half of the human population, he said that "if anybody would answer that to me and say, 'You're depriving them of rights,' then I would be worried about denying anybody, right? Because to deny anybody's right, it also diminishes dignity."

On Afghanistan, the cardinal said he "is not judging anybody," but looking back to the initial invasion in 2001, he said the "U.S. went in there with vengeance."

"If U.S. had gone in first not even with a militant posture but to talk, we'd be living with a completely different situation now," he added.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenspope; murderer; peterturkson
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What's more extreme than a Catholic president who is responsible for the murder of thousands of babies at taxpayers' expense?
1 posted on 10/04/2021 9:16:45 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 10/04/2021 9:17:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
What's more extreme than a Catholic president who is responsible for the murder of thousands of babies at taxpayers' expense?

The thousands and thousands of Catholics that voted for this pro-murder President in the first place.

3 posted on 10/04/2021 9:20:29 PM PDT by Maudeen (https://thereishopeinJesus. Our ONLY hope! NORMAL ISN'T COMING BACK . . . BUT JESUS IS!)
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To: All

Why?

Because Satan runs both the Vatican and The White House.


4 posted on 10/04/2021 9:20:34 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: ebb tide

The African hierarchy is generally pretty good, but Turkson has proven to be a company man in lockstep with Bergoglio. IIRC, he was one of the chief participants in the idolatrous Pachamama ceremony in the Vatican garden.


5 posted on 10/04/2021 9:22:30 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

The Cardinal is probably giddy over Joe’s “leg hair” thing.


6 posted on 10/04/2021 9:24:34 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Leave. Us. Alone.)
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To: ebb tide

The Catholic church has been infiltrated and trashed.


7 posted on 10/04/2021 9:27:20 PM PDT by Revel
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To: ebb tide
And God's style is closeness, compassion and tenderness."

It is also justice and judgement. Open the Bible and read it, pope!

8 posted on 10/04/2021 9:51:11 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ebb tide

Jesus would not believe in abortion and Mary would not be “pro-chouce”.


9 posted on 10/04/2021 10:14:02 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: shanover

At the Last Supper, and first Communion, Christ served the sacrament to both Judas Iscariot and Peter. At the moment he served the sacrament Christ knew Judas had betrayed him. He also knew that night Peter would deny him. Christ served the sacrament to sinners puposefully.


10 posted on 10/04/2021 11:50:43 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Soul of the South

Your point please.


11 posted on 10/05/2021 12:18:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Soul of the South

To say Judas and Peter were operating the first abortion mill?


12 posted on 10/05/2021 1:48:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ebb tide

Catholic church lost its morality.
NO confidence in anything Catholic church.
Can’t afford to lose them donations so look the other way concerning baby murderers and LGBT crappola, Oh and don’t forget buggering priests.


13 posted on 10/05/2021 3:10:05 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Dementia Joe and the Whore, leaders of the Free world. ( F-you dementia Joe.))
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To: ebb tide

Beginning to wonder if there are any Catholics in the Catholic church (at least in the leadership).


14 posted on 10/05/2021 3:23:08 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. )
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To: ebb tide

Extreme cases only......like say, wearing a MAGA hat.


15 posted on 10/05/2021 4:50:01 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: Joe Boucher

RCINC made a deal with Deep State- Deep State wont go hard after pedo priests if RCINC tacitly support baby killing democrats.

After all RCINC is the oldest most profitable multinational corporation on the planet


16 posted on 10/05/2021 5:38:51 AM PDT by slapshot (Coke wants me to act less white? Well I will not purchase Coke Products- Get woke go broke-)
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To: Soul of the South
Both Judas' and Peter's sins were in the future at that point. Christ's knowledge of such things in his divinity was of course infallible, but even if our knowledge was infallible as well, nobody is suggesting that communion be denied to people we know will sin in the future.

(Most of the time, if we did that, nobody would be able to receive.)

We're talking about people who have committed serious sins in the past and are entirely unrepentant about it today.

17 posted on 10/05/2021 8:16:45 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: irishjuggler

I’m of the same opinion of leaders in the Catholic Church in Africa. They are very pro life and traditional marriage. I actually thought our next pope was going to be from Africa but alas it was South America.


18 posted on 10/05/2021 8:24:18 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: slapshot
So "profitable" that the Vatican is wondering how to pay its bills and make payroll.

On a per-capita basis, the LDS church is far richer than the Catholic church, because active Mormons are required to tithe.

19 posted on 10/05/2021 8:38:05 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: slapshot
Can you name another group of people, or organization, that has fed more people, clothed more people, taken care of more sick people- and have educated more people - across the whole world, in the history of modern civilization- more than the Catholic Church?

Notice this does not mean the Catholic Church IS, or has always been perfect, impeccable without problems. It's entrusted stewards can be corrupt, greedy and sexually abusive- among other things. That is sinful human nature, that does not go ever go away- for anyone, even us, and from the Pope, all the way down.

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

Being forgiven, to overcome that sinfulness, is the true mission of the Church, and to change this world.
20 posted on 10/05/2021 9:04:15 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (Be Willing to march into hell with a Heavenly cause, and of couse, "Keep Going".)
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